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  • SUPERMAN PUNCH-A Discussion

    O.K. UFC fans we all know about the success of the Superman Punch. Known in the traditional martial arts world as the jump lunge. Why is it so successful? How come you don't see more counters? Below is a poll designed to ascertain the best counter to the Superman punch. The poll is private and no one can see your vote.
    14
    Parry and Counter
    21.43%
    3
    Block and Counter
    7.14%
    1
    Ippon Seoi Nage-Shoulder Throw
    0.00%
    0
    Double Leg Takedown
    14.29%
    2
    Foot Jab/Thrust Kick/Teep
    28.57%
    4
    Other- Write in your Answer
    28.57%
    4
    Last edited by Hardball; 03-18-2007, 08:58 PM.

  • #2
    The double doesn't seem like a good idea against a well thrown superman, you go low, and he's already in position to sprawl on you, with his feet already going back and out.

    I think the reason you don't see it countered is that so far it's been used pretty well. Only one that comes to mind in recent memory is GSP's and he set his up very nicely, he already had Hughes banged up and worried about the kicks.

    But ideally, I think the foot jab is the best way to stop it. If you have the time to see it and go for a double, you have enough time to lean back and throw a nice nasty teep against a very exposed, forward traveling midsection.

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    • #3
      A few weeks ago, in an NHB/MMA match, I actually advised one of my fighters to throw the supreman after a leg kick feint. His opponent bit the feint, caught the right (superman punch) which stunned him and set him up for a series of lefts and rights and a couple of uppercuts that finally put his opponent on his back for the knock out.

      Nine seconds in into the second round.

      The actual setup had two stages.

      #1 Jab, cross, right leg kick
      #2 Jab, cross, feint right leg kick

      My advice, if you recognized it as a superman punch then it wasn't setup properly and getting out of the way should be your primary concern.

      The punch itself is not super powerful because the striker has no foundation from which to generate power. The effectiveness of the shot is based on its deceptiveness.

      If you see it coming, but its too late to get out of the way, then cover up and prepare to clinch as your opponent moves towards you.

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      • #4
        Not really a superman punch but kinda an offshoot,

        If your fighting a guy and everytime you throw a leg kick he defends improperly by dropping his hand instead of raising his shin, eventually just feint the leg kick and throw a right cross, or in my experience hook, your already coming forward with the feint kick, so just plant that pivot, and bam right hook, works VERY well against more in experienced strikers.

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        • #5
          i would think that a foot jab is most applicable if properly applied.

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          • #6
            The Superman Punch has been around for years in the traditional martial arts world, especially in the Korean arts. Lots of pictures of guys leaping on their opponent with a palm heel or punch.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
              The Superman Punch has been around for years in the traditional martial arts world, especially in the Korean arts. Lots of pictures of guys leaping on their opponent with a palm heel or punch.
              Yea, but what is your most effective defense? So far, 1/3 of the respondents feel that the teep kick is the best defense. If anyone ever counters the jump lunge(Superman punch) with a ippon seion nage they are going to have the crowd on there feet roaring!!! I've yet to see anyone in the UFC parry the S.M. punch which is such a simple maneuver. (ie. to parry)

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              • #8
                Heh, we call it the Flying Ninja Punch, but anyway: If you can teep it go for it, but if it's been used well you won't have the time I would think. I'm for the parry counter personally. I think that the only reason it works, is because it's so fun and impressive looking, that nobody expects you to actually use the thing. It's only cropped up in the sparring here once or twice, and the recipiant always makes this great face-some kind of mix between enjoyment (that someone used the Flying Ninja Punch) and exaspiration (that they fell for it).

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                • #9
                  Get out of the way of the punch.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Little Apple View Post
                    Heh, we call it the Flying Ninja Punch, but anyway: If you can teep it go for it, but if it's been used well you won't have the time I would think. I'm for the parry counter personally. I think that the only reason it works, is because it's so fun and impressive looking, that nobody expects you to actually use the thing. It's only cropped up in the sparring here once or twice, and the recipiant always makes this great face-some kind of mix between enjoyment (that someone used the Flying Ninja Punch) and exaspiration (that they fell for it).
                    Heh...I think the same applies for the other "flash" techniques like the spinning backfist, or the very rare spinning back(hook) kick.

                    Makes you wonder if anybody bothers to train specifically against these techniques actually.

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                    • #11
                      You guys are all fucking morons. The best counter to a superman punch is a kryptonite kick. Jesus Jesse James, I feel like I'm teaching kindergarden.

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                      • #12
                        In all honesty, I think the best way to counter the superman punch is to just launch a Tiger Uppercut or a Haduken to their chest. Other than that, I second the Kryptonite kick.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be View Post
                          In all honesty, I think the best way to counter the superman punch is to just launch a Tiger Uppercut or a Haduken to their chest. Other than that, I second the Kryptonite kick.
                          What is a Haduken?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hardball View Post
                            What is a Haduken?
                            lmao.. haduken what Ryu or Ken says when they throw a fireball in the street fighter games...


                            HADUKEN!!!!

                            lmao

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                            • #15
                              Damn, I thought is was a Japanese name for some type of throw or technique. LOL

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