some type of style to better myself ???

[JE NYC]

Whats up guys Im a 31 year old male from nyc and have always been interested in fighting professionally or organized. I consider myself a very good fighter and have learned the style "street" from the streets of nyc. I always wanted to learn some type of style to better myself to see how far i could take my fighting skills. I do not use my legs when i fight just arms and punches so i would like to learn a style that uses your legs. I did my research and people talk about Muay Thai and how its the most aggressive and thats what i want! AGGRESSIVE! Is there any other styles that are more underground but aggressive?

[ZillaBilla]

Hey JE,

I hear a style called Kun Tao, is suposed to be very aggresive. I think its a mix of Chinese Martial Arts with Indonesian Silat, as practiced in Indonesia, though I think these schools are quite rare.

Cheers.

[JE NYC]

great thanks any places you know of in NYC to start training
and what is this style about? can you descibe it a bit to me?

[IPON]

I do not use my legs when i fight just arms and punches so i would like to learn a style that uses your legs.

What about the sacred art of (shhhhhhhhoooshshh....don't speak out loud)

BOXING!!!!!

[JE NYC]

i always loved boxing...but i think of it like this

a martial artist i think would always be able to take a boxer...


am i wrong?

[IPON]

Completly!! I have seen many street fighters beat MAists. Hel I did with wrestling/boxining before formal training. I don't know what part of NYC you live but since you claim street fighting, I am suprised you have not noticed how common and viscious boxers are on the street

[Tom Yum]

wrestling & boxing

People don't think of boxing and wrestling as martial arts because they aren't from Asia, but they are both very effective. They are both combat arts that require a great deal of athleticism and technique.

Their training methods are the best IMO.

1. You are constantly working on conditioning.
2. Everything you learn, you apply right away against a resisting opponent.

People critique boxing because of its lack of kicks, which is true but there are many dirty tricks that boxers can use for streetfighting - I won't go into it, but its true.

People critque wrestling because of its lack of subs, but if you can take someone down hard and fast on the concrete or into a wall, you may not have to do much more. What also seems good about wrestling is that you can control someone and not do damage if you think its the right thing to do.

Props to both arts. Otherwise stick with muay thai.

Hope this helps & good luck in your search for fight circuts!

[krys]

I hear a style called Kun Tao, is suposed to be very aggresive. I think its a mix of Chinese Martial Arts with Indonesian Silat, as practiced in Indonesia, though I think these schools are quite rare.

Kuntao is found in whole south east asia. It consists of a familly of mas practiced mostly by oversea chinese, it refers to hybrid silat-cmas and cmas evolved outside China. Often very brutal (Chinese made lots of ennemies in SEA and had to know how to defend themselves in order to survive: ethnic riots, death challenges..). I don't know of any really good school outside south east asia.

Is there any other styles that are more underground but aggressive?

I've trained in Muay Thai for five years a.o. in Thailand, it is agood system , but I find some styles of silat and kuntao more agressive. Most vicious and painfull low kicks I've seen come from pukulan type silat. If you are not crippled the pain can last for days...
Burmese Bando is also nice, it has some nasty groundfighting called naban but may be hard to find in your area....

[Tom Yum]

I've trained in Muay Thai for five years a.o. in Thailand, it is agood system , but I find some styles of silat and kuntao more agressive. Most vicious and painfull low kicks I've seen come from pukulan type silat. If you are not crippled the pain can last for days...
Burmese Bando is also nice, it has some nasty groundfighting called naban but may be hard to find in your area....

I'm especially impressed with the hand speed and hand sensitivity of the pukulan system.

[krys]

I'm especially impressed with the hand speed and hand sensitivity of the pukulan system.

That's common to many silat-kuntao systems.

What impresses me is their capacity to inflict pain and take punishment. Their low kicking skills are particularly awesome.... Some pukulan guys I've seen are living weapons and only practice empty hands. I find it difficult to practice this art regularly and go to work while limping for days.....

[JE NYC]

Wow Guys Thank You Great Responses I Will Start Looking In To These Other Brutal Agressive Styles Any More?

[ZillaBilla]

great thanks any places you know of in NYC to start training
and what is this style about? can you descibe it a bit to me?

Dont really know of any mate, not my neck of the woods, google should help.

[JE NYC]

anyone know wHere i can start training AND FIGHTING in NYC???????????

[IPON]

In What MT, MMA, Kun Tao, Silat?????

I can tekk you KunTao is rare I no of no schools in NYC (Real) Silat is also rare, But I do remember a school in NYC or at least someone who was teaching it and other styles (I wasn't impressed) I will try to find the name.