A moment of silence

[Tom Yum]

or perhaps, a prayer for the people who have lost property or life at the hands of hurricane Katrina.

The current estimates say there are thousands dead and several hundred thousand without electrical power. Alabama was also affected.

You can help by dropping a few cans of perishable canned items into the red cross bins at the stores - things like corn, black eyed peas, green beans, yams etc.

[Garland]

I'm soooooo happy my friend Russell got out of there okay. He's a UNO student, I guess he drove to Texas with some friends and got a plane ticket home...

[Cain]

Well, I'm sure Sudan would love to help if they had the money to help..

[Sensei Saki]

I'm not. Dude,Where are they?OK let's do take Saudi Arabia for instance we saved their ass from Sadam they gave us terrorism they gouge us for oil yet they are too ******* cheep to give any money.
Try saying that with more or less context.The anonymous "they".How about Israel; We give them approx 2 billion in military and economic aid every year and they don’t give us a cent.Interesting deduction. I think there might be a few exception.
I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time.Who are "they" again?I think there might be a few exception.

[Tom Yum]

Let's take Saudi Arabia for instance, we saved their ass from Sadam, they gave us terrorism, they gouge us for oil, yet they're too ******* cheep to give any money..

Private investors from Saudi have invested alot of money here.

Let’s take Germany; They declared war on us, we kicked their ass and rebuilt their nation into an industrial powerhouse. They don’t give us a dime...

But they gave us Daimler-Chrystler

How about Israel; We give them approx 2 billion in military and economic aid every year and they don’t give us a cent....

They invest heavily in our education systems.

Mexico: They give us millions of illegal so we give NAFTA and in the process screw Americans. Do they even send condolences?

Clinton lent a significant amount to Mexico, against the wishes of many at the time. Mexico repaid the loan and in doing so, made Clinton look pretty good and the rest of the world happy with him. That's hard to pull off these days as a US president.

It’s about time we start looking after our own first, seeing few who we’ve looked after are looking after us. We don't ever have to look far to find poverty, destitution and the 3rd world experience in our own country. Some of those billions should go here seeing mostly terrorism and hatred is coming back.

I have to agree with you here. We need to invest more here at home. Throwing money at problems doesn't allways solve it though. I'm sure there are sociologists and economists who study poverty and have come up with some interesting finds; so have the leaders in those communities.

Once we reallocate money back home, how do we spend it? Therein lies another problem: policy.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

sunday september 4th was the date when your government officially accepted foreign aid

Cuba actually already offered help as did Germany and several other countries
Some already sent planes with help, not knowing if they would be allowed to land

BTW maybe damage would have been less if the buget for flood control would not have been majorly reduced by this administration for the 3rd year in a row

All in all reasons enough to take a critical look at locla, state and federal government instead of falsly complaining about other countries not giving any help

[BoarSpear]

sunday september 4th was the date when your government officially accepted foreign aid

Cuba actually already offered help as did Germany and several other countries
Some already sent planes with help, not knowing if they would be allowed to land

BTW maybe damage would have been less if the buget for flood control would not have been majorly reduced by this administration for the 3rd year in a row

All in all reasons enough to take a critical look at locla, state and federal government instead of falsly complaining about other countries not giving any help

Well said. a better question is why are those who try and help being turned back? several members of my family are working in relief efforts in N.O. and two others run HAM radios...these are usually used during times of crisis...NOT this time...In fact they seem to be jammed to qoute many HAM operators i know...why is help being refused from american citizens?
dont look across the ocean for the problem look right here in our backyard.

[Garland]

My friend from UNO is now staying with me and my family.
I'm so happy he's okay, but I've yet to hear from another one of my Highschool classmates. God, I hope she's okay.

[HtTKar]

Best wishes for your friends Garland. It really is embarrasing whats happening down there. We dont need foreign aid H2H, we just need to act. Many people up here in the North East are opening their homes for anyone that can find a way here. Many houses are full of people they dont even know, just helping out. One rural family here took in a family of 25 that managed to escape. But NY is very far away from Louisianna. Everywhere I go, at every store there are donation jars full of money. Tons of people are donating blood and food. There is a nation wide effort to help our brothers. Problem is none of this is making it to the people. Where is all this money going? How come the news crews can get into N.O., but the government can't? Somethings very fishy

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Are you kidding me?

How many people could have been saved if UN helicopters had been down there assisting Coast Guard and S&R rescue efforts?

How many people have died from disease that the IRC could have treated?

And who do you blame for that?

[HtTKar]

Are you kidding me?

No.
Why do you want to make the US so reliant on foreign powers and foreign help? We are a very strong and capable country...a superpower. Do you really think that we are incapable of helping ourselves?

How many people could have been saved if UN helicopters had been down there assisting Coast Guard and S&R rescue efforts?

How many?
Then, how many people could have..or still could be saved if US helicopters from across the country were allowed to enter the state and rescue people?

How many people have died from disease that the IRC could have treated?

How many? The IRC helps victims and refugees of ARMED COMBAT. This is a little different. The Red Cross is there. Many private citizens, doctors and nurses from around the country are assisting them. Still, there are just not enough people pitching in, not enough supply routes, and the rising price of gas makes it harder for private citizens in far away states to make a trip there.

Why all the unanswerable questions? You cant wonder what if, we just need to act and get something done worth feeling good about.

[Tom Yum]

And who do you blame for that?

Me of course.

You have a bad day.....Tom!
Price of oil goes up.......Tom!!
Hurricane anywhere......TOM!!!

Why? Just because .

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Who should I blame for that?

You tell me, you were very quick at pointing a finger at other countries.
Sunday September 4th was the first day your country accepted help, days before that you were already complaining why other countries didn't offer help

Oh and what did you say about those who stayed behind?

You also seem to think UN can come in without permission, maybe because you don't want to believe this permission hasn't been given yet

But of course, it is unpatriotic to think government ( local, state and federal) might have made huge "mistakes" like these
On the other hand blaming the UN and the IRC and claiming that other countries wouldn't have emphaty just because they do not agree with the policies of your Administration, , yeah that's patriotic

Who should you blame, it's up to you, but first take of your partizan glasses

[Sensei Saki]

There is not much I can say about you were very quick at pointing a finger at other countries . I have to reach into the Web for that
knowledge.




I was?When was this exactly?
Why would I think UN can come in without permission maybe because you do not want to believe this permission has not been given yetBut of course it is unpatriotic to think government local state and federal might have made huge mistakes like theseOn the other hand blaming the UN and the IRC and claiming that other countries would not have emphaty just because they do not agree with the policies of your Administration yes that is patrioticWho should you blame it is up to you but first take of your partizan glasses?

[BoarSpear]

Praise the lord...AND pass the AMMO...things are getting bad.