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  • #46
    Ralph Nader has entered the race. That will help McCain.

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    • #47
      ralph nader is a really intelligent man - and yet it just seems like there's so much that he doesn't get...

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      • #48
        Obama and Clinton Debate tonight at 9pm on msnbc

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Mike Brewer
          It's that vacant look and tenured, disinterested professorial tone with which he speaks that makes him so repellant, I think. He looks like he knows a lot more than some people, but just doesn't give a rat's ass.
          yeah... i get what you're saying...

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          • #50
            I tried to watch it but the streaming was acting funky. Something about please wait still buffering.

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            • #51
              unless the good ol boys figure out how to rig another election, obama is pretty much gonna be the next president right??

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              • #52
                McCain, Obama in heated exchange over Iraq
                Story Highlights
                McCain questions whether Obama is aware of al Qaeda presence in Iraq

                Obama says there was no al Qaeda in Iraq until Bush, McCain decided to invade

                McCain statement: Comments during Democrats' debate were "timidity of despair"

                Obama: McCain has followed "George Bush into a misguided war in Iraq"

                (CNN) -- Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama engaged in a pointed exchange over al Qaeda in Iraq on Wednesday.

                McCain questioned whether Obama was aware of the al Qaeda base. Obama's response was: "There was no such thing as al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq."

                McCain was in Tyler, Texas, and Obama was in Columbus, Ohio.

                "I understand that Sen. Obama said that if al Qaeda established a base in Iraq that he would send troops back in militarily. Al Qaeda already has a base in Iraq. It's called al Qaeda in Iraq," McCain said.

                "It's a remarkable statement to say that you would send troops back to a place where al Qaeda has established a base -- where they have already established a base."

                McCain's comments come in response to remarks Obama made Tuesday night in a debate with Sen. Hillary Clinton. He was asked if the president would have to right to go back into Iraq in order to suppress an insurrection after downsizing the U.S. troop presence. Watch what Clinton and Obama said about the war »

                "I always reserve the right for the president ... to make sure that we are looking out for American interests," Obama said. "And if al Qaeda is forming a base in Iraq, then we will have to act in a way that secures the American homeland and our interests abroad."

                In a statement sent out by McCain's press office Wednesday said, "Is Sen. Obama unaware that al Qaeda is still present in Iraq, that our forces are successfully fighting them every day, and that his Iraq policy of withdrawal would embolden al Qaeda and weaken our security?"

                Obama responded to the latest attacks from McCain, saying his comments were taken out of context.

                Obama said the question he was asked during the debate was a "big hypothetical."

                "I said, 'Well, I would always reserve the right to go in and strike against al Qaeda if they were in Iraq,' so you know, this is how politics works," Obama said at a rally in Columbus.

                "McCain thought that he could make a clever point by saying ,'Well let me give you some news Barack, al Qaeda is in Iraq,' like I wasn't reading the papers, like I didn't know what was going on."

                "I said, 'Well first of all, I do know that al Qaeda is in Iraq. That's why I've said we should continue to strike al Qaeda targets. But I have some news for John McCain, and that is that there was no such thing as al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq."

                Obama continued to blast Bush and McCain, saying, "John McCain may like to say he wants to follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, but so far all he's done is follow George Bush into a misguided war in Iraq."

                McCain in his statement said "the Democratic presidential contenders deny progress and see only gloom and doom. Where is the audacity of hope when it comes to backing the success of our troops all the way to victory in Iraq? What we heard last night was the timidity of despair."

                The latest exchange comes as a new poll suggests McCain would pose a tough match for the eventual Democratic nominee.

                Obama is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination. Clinton trails by 97 delegates, but 370 delegates are up for grabs next Tuesday.Watch the shift in Clinton-Obama dynamics »

                According to a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll, McCain would be in tight races with either of the remaining Democratic presidential candidates.

                McCain is statistically tied with Obama, 44 percent to 42 percent, and ahead of Clinton by 6 points, 46 percent to 40 percent.

                The poll's margin of error was plus-or-minus 3 percentage points.

                The poll also showed McCain with a 61 percent approval rating, a number higher than both Clinton's and Obama's in past polls.

                The Arizona senator holds a clear advantage on dealing with the war in Iraq, according to the poll, and holds a 9 point advantage on economic issues over Obama, despite having acknowledged that area is not his expertise.

                CNN's Chris Welch and Alex Mooney contributed to this report.

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                • #53
                  the election in this country is a joke. its treated like the superbowl on sportscenter all over tv. it doesnt matter who wins, our choices are so limited and the same things are gonna happen. The real owners of this country are in control and behind a red curtain.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 View Post
                    the election in this country is a joke. its treated like the superbowl on sportscenter all over tv. it doesnt matter who wins, our choices are so limited and the same things are gonna happen. The real owners of this country are in control and behind a red curtain.
                    i am also frustrated with the three ring circus that is supposed to be our elections.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 View Post
                      the election in this country is a joke. its treated like the superbowl on sportscenter all over tv. it doesnt matter who wins, our choices are so limited and the same things are gonna happen. The real owners of this country are in control and behind a red curtain.
                      Don't overdo the despair.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                        Respect? You never had any respect for me.

                        I know I never did. Not because you are a liberal, but because you are a fucking moron, and I mean that with all sincerity.



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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                          I know I never did. Not because you are a liberal, but because you are a fucking moron, and I mean that with all sincerity.
                          shouldnt you get back to the typical al bundy lifestyle that you live, so you can further contribute to the total collapse of the american education system?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                            The minute Obama takes office, your taxes are going up 20-30%. Illegal aliens will come over the border with 10 times the amount they normally do. Al Queda will attack immediately, with great force and swiftness, because we all know that Democrats are soft on terror. All large business owners will lose money and the country will go into deep recession.

                            That's what is going to happen when Obama takes over. Right Mike, Jubaji?? I mean, that's your big worry, right?
                            lol wicked, where can i vote

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DickHardman View Post
                              shouldnt you get back to the typical al bundy lifestyle that you live, so you can further contribute to the total collapse of the american education system?


                              Whatever the hell that means. Hitting the bong a little early today, huh Cheech?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                                So why not get out and do something about it?

                                Or is it just easier to piss and moan like a spoiled, whiny teenage girl?
                                you are right. i should run for president. bush jr was an alcoholic for years who took 8balls of cocaine to his face, and i think his grades were worse than mine. ive never gotten a DUI either. maybe i could do better. in fact, being a politician doesnt sound too bad, i could be like charlie wilson and spend all my time in office in jaccuzis with hot women, with a mixed drink in my hand and a cowboy hat on my head....

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