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  • Non lethal weapons, This is what I was afraid of.

    When I first heard about these weapons I remember reading that the technology would never be used domestically, well that may be changing.\

    Nonlethal weapons touted for use on citizens
    Air Force secretary says they should be used for domestic crowd control
    The Associated Press

    Updated: 7:02 p.m. CT Sept 12, 2006

    WASHINGTON - Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

    Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Secretary Michael Wynne.

    “If we’re not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne. “(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press.”

    The Air Force has funded research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service isn’t likely to spend more money on development until injury issues are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.

    Nonlethal weapons generally can weaken people if they are hit with the beam. Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy pulses that also can be effective in disabling some electronic devices.

    On another subject, Wynne said he expects to pick a new contractor for the next generation of aerial refueling tankers by next summer. He said a draft request for bids will be put out next month, and there are two qualified bidders: The Boeing Co. and a team of Northrop Grumman Corp. and European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., the majority owner of European jet maker Airbus SAS.

    The contract is expected to be worth at least $20 billion.

    Chicago-based Boeing lost the tanker deal in 2004 amid revelations that it had hired a top Air Force acquisitions official who had given the company preferential treatment.

    Air Force tightens its belt
    Wynne also said the Air Force, which is already chopping 40,000 active duty, civilian and reserves jobs, is now struggling to find new ways to slash about $1.8 billion from its budget to cover costs from the latest round of base closings.

    He said he can’t cut more people, and it would not be wise to take funding from military programs that are needed to protect the country. But he said he also encounters resistance when he tries to save money on operations and maintenance by retiring aging aircraft.

    “We’re finding out that those are, unfortunately, prized possessions of some congressional districts,” said Wynne, adding that the Air Force will have to “take some appetite suppressant pills.” He said he has asked employees to look for efficiencies in their offices.

    The base closings initially were expected to create savings by reducing Air Force infrastructure by 24 percent.

  • #2
    I see several concerns arising from the article. Its an interesting article for sure....

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    • #3
      Originally posted by eXcessiveForce View Post
      “If we’re not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne.
      wow did he really just say that?

      does anyone else see the irony in this statement?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 3mptin3ss View Post
        wow did he really just say that?
        does anyone else see the irony in this statement?
        Apparently he did.

        There's alot behind that statement. Think about it...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by eXcessiveForce View Post
          ot willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne.
          **** this polesmoker. What the hell is wrong with him...if we can't do it to our countrymen, we shouldn't use it on enemy combatants? Oh, so lets give those guys more rights? FVCK THAT SHIT.

          Time to break out the gasoline and the bottles...looks like we need some weathermen shit. Fucking fucks. Thank GOD they lifted the weapons ban.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
            Apparently he did.

            There's alot behind that statement. Think about it...

            I have been, and there is a lot behind it, still... Wow that's like a line out of an apocolypse movie.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gregimotis View Post
              Wow that's like a line out of an apocolypse movie.
              Apocolypse now?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
                Apocolypse now?
                I guess I was thinking more like 'Failsafe'. Just nobody give that guy any launch codes, allright?

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                • #9
                  Where was this article posted at? Got link?

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                  • #10
                    it was on msnbc.com. but it's kind of old now.

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                    • #11
                      I agree...that is freaking nuts and that guy needs to have his arse whipped if anything like that ever happens. I do not want to come off as a conspiracy nut but I have read some stuff in the past and have talked with some old guys who were in the military in WWII and have heard and read all kinds of scary stores about crap the military does to test stuff. Read some really scary stuff that supposedly took place back in the 1950's over Texas and New Mexico as a way for the military to study the jet stream and how far particles would be carried on the jet stream. Makes you think.

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