How tough was Bruce Lee?

[Tom Yum]

It seems there are a lot of 'armchair MMA's' in this forum that do little or no training but just like to talk about it a lot. For them go ask those really in the know about those things i.e. fighters or promoters actively involved in MMA, not just armchair guys.

As for the idiot referring to me as a troll or whatever, I am certainly not anything of the sort. I am making valid legitimate points that are true, as I know many in MMA circles that can verify them. If they are not true, I see no evidence coming from anyone in this forum except childish and immature - 'we dont believe you' type comments. Name one top MMA guy that will deny those facts, name just one? There arent any, just like in bodybuilding nobody can seriously deny drug usage e.g. steroids is not widespread, how could they it is said to be impossible to win a Mr or Ms Olympia without taking them!

You've got me pinned. I am 4'9" and 229 lbs. I have never studied martial arts, or trained in MMA for that matter and don't talk to anyone involved in MMA. Oh yeah, I can run a mile in about 2 hours flat

[Tant01]

There are also alot of guys that are straight and don't take drugs! Some of us "armchair" types were mixing Martial arts before there was a term for it. That there are all kinds of vile appetites in the world can not be denied... So what.

[EmptyneSs]

Also fact that many gay MMA like grappling because it involves close contact with other sweaty males & has the added thrill of danger , of being hit and hurt.

hahaha^
that shit cracks me up, as rediculous as it is, its funny as hell.

[Uber_Tap]

Dude, you keep talking about all of these statistics, but where are you getting them?

If there is a an article or web page that you can direct us to, please do so.

If your knowledge is form personal experience keep this in mind: THE HANDS ON HIP MAN MEAT SLIP hold is not real, don't go to that school any more. It's a trick. Leave the martial arts. Take up running. Find a new hobby. Sell Avon, just stay the hell away from that school. Please let everyone know the school you go to so we can stay the hell away to.

If your training partner intoduces himself by saying "boy, you sure do have a pretty mouth" RUN!!!! Don't go back. Just trying to help you out dude.

[Warrior Dude]

Serious Matter

It is not remotely funny , as this person talking of a 'hand on hip male meat slip ' hold or whatever, that is being very childish & immature; if some 200 pound + guy on steroids tried to take you from behind there is probavly not a lot most could do about it & therefore not a laughing matter at all. What I am saying is true, nobody here has posted anything to the contrary. Notice too that MMA athletes have conviently ignored this post, as they know the truth of it.

Anyway please answer :-

1) Do you deny steroid use is widespread in MMA circles?

2) Do you deny illegal drugs like cocaine, speed etc are used a lot in MMA circles, incl. before fights?

3) Do you deny homosexuality is rife & widespread in MMA circles?


Anyone denying any of those 3 is clearly very naive indeed, or in denial. Any MMA athlete especially professional or promoter actively involved in the sport will tell you unequivically these things are indeed going on. Ask anyone on this forum actively involved in MMA on this forum , not an 'armchair enthusiast'.

[Tant01]

It is not remotely funny , ....... that is being very childish & immature; if some 200 pound + guy on steroids tried to take you from behind there is probavly not a lot most could do about it & therefore not a laughing matter at all. ......
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No, it's not. The defeatist attitude and "defensive" mindset of so called Martial artists really pisses me off!

That 200+ lb guy on steroids ( PCP, crack head or desperate heroin junkie bent on man rape) is the guy you should be training to fight or kill.

In that light I think there are all kinds of things one could do to escape or avoid the steroid guy. First thing that comes to mind is "How did a guy so big sneak up and get that close in the first place? Am I asleep or what?

sheesh...

[Uber_Tap]

Warrior Dude, either provide the source of your statistics or stop walking on your hands and talking out your ass. You said the same dumb crap over and over with no proof other than your personal experience.

These guys have to be tested by the boxing commission in the states where these fights are held. I'm talking about the UFC, I'm sure some of the smaller organizations my not be held to the same standards. Ask Tim Silvia if they test for 'roids, he lost his belt because of it. Does that mean they catch everyone that's dirty, and everyone fighting is clean? Of course not, there are ways around anything but I doubt steroid use is at the level you describe.

As for the homosexual thing, I'm a little concerned about your focus on that. If your gay, dude that's fine it's your business. No reason to try to talk about stupid statistics though. My guess is that the only place you will find a gay population of 70%+ is in gay bars, and maybe at the opera

We have hijacked the thread starters orignal post with this stupid crap, so either provide some statistics from a real source or shut the hell up and drop it. Everyone understands you are only trying to argue for the sake of arguing. Nobody believes you.

[EmptyneSs]

this warrior dude is really fixated on the gay thing. i think its a domination fantasy type thing.

[Hraka]

Im confused. so what is being said is that when your fighting, wrestling or whatever in a match the gay guy pulls down your pants and rapes you in front of your class or the audience on the mat??

Or does he rape you through your pants with out acctually taking them off? Like does he just rip a hole in them with his penis and goes to town??

Maybe you just got raped by some 200lb mma guy, but it was on a date not during a match ... . . and now your bitter.

Ok but, to be a little more serious and political and slightly off topic. Since when does being gay make you a sex fiend?? Why is it that a gay guy wants to molest and rape men, but a straight guy( ok, to be fair, most) dont rape and molest women?

If I was sparing with a woman and we started to grapple, I wouldnt try to molest her or rape her . . .. Id I dunno . .. . . spar . . .

conclusion, maybe you are just a biggot or a troll or both.

[Warrior Dude]

Check The Facts!

As I said research the facts yourselves, talk to people in the know for the truth.

And no, I am certainly not gay; anymore than I am a drug taker, but I can say with certainty these these things are true.

Again research it factually for yourselves, dont just be an armchair MMA enthusiast, sitting at home offering opinions - talk to top MMA fighters (you can email some for free, just look at their websites), ask top promoters, etc. I have spoken with many, which is why I can say with certainty that these things are unequivocally true.

[Mr. Gordo]

Want me to start listing names of MMA top guys that can verify each of those things - drugs illegal are used / steroids are used /homosexuality is widespread??? Not a problem to do.

You posted the above last week and still haven't answered. Shut your pie hole troll, and name the names.

[Meyo]

Mas Oyama vs Bruce lee..Who would win

I have been reading and studying on this Martial artist named Mas Oyama. The thing that caught my eye was his reputation. He went to many tournaments of martial arts. And none of his fights lasted more than a few minutes. Usually only one punch would take down his opponent. Its said " If you blocked his punch, your arm would brake or be dislocated. If you didn't your rib would be broken. He got a name for himself called Godhand. He killed a man once, in selfdefence.. With only one punch. And thats not even the beginning. He wanted to test his strength. So he was pitted against 52 bulls. A few of them went out with one single punch. The rest of them he ripped there horns off. Although he had been gored in the back near the end. Oh, and why haven't you heard of this guy. He has said, that he didn't want fame. That he didn't care to be known through out the world. But he sounds to me, that he had immensive skill in martial arts and effective training. He opened a dojo but half the students would quit do to his intense training. So now I ask you..

This guy sounds like match for Bruce lee. Does anyone think he could take bruce lee?

[EmptyneSs]

mas was for sure way more hardcore than bruce lee.

[eric n]

obviously there have been a lot of positive test for "supplements" in the mma world. And yes, fighters have been known to take recreational drugs. I once trained a boxer who decided meth was a great way to make weight...WHAT A MORON! I know dozens of mma fighters. None that I know of are gay. Some are pretty damn close friends.....

There are certainly gay people in mma, just as their are in Football, Baseball, boxing and jazz dance (damn are there gay people in jazz dance). 70% is a pretty much unsupportable bit of conjecture.

[ciscodog]

Since Nick Diaz just tested positive for weed, was tested after the fight I highly doubt that MMA folks are taking coke before a fight.Now the thing with MMA is that its still a sport with rules. Could BL adapt his technique for that sport sure...... in a fight between a good MMA guy and a black belt in the street its anyones guess but i would lean towards the black belt because they train for real life street encounters, not a sport. Now many of the MMA best fighters started in karate or BJJ dojos. BJJ isnt MMA, Karate isnt MMA, but both build the solid foundations for the student to participate. I see fights all the time that have 2 strikers fighting each other and some fights its the ground guys so they prefer takedowns. MMA is just a set of rules thats all, nothing else.Every style has weakness, for example BJJ and stand up, Karate the ground game, and its up to you the student to be smart enough to see holes in your "game" and fill them in accordingly.