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I keep hearing BJJ people brag about going to Judo gyms and tapping out black belts, etc... So let me just address this situation one last time.
First of all, judo is judo, not BJJ. The rules are different and so is the emphasis. Most judo clubs emphasize throwing. In fact, at some clubs, once you hit the ground, the match is over. In contrast, submissions is the mainstay of BJJ. That's what you train to do in BJJ. So if you're engaged in a submissions match BJJ-style, ofcourse a BJJ guy should win. If you want to randori judo-style, I'll bet the Judo guy throws you on your can. That Rickson defeated judo guys at a local club, one after another, means only one thing — BJJ will win most of the time in a submissions match.
People act like this was the first time judo has been beaten by submissions. Before Olympic Judo, Kano's Kudokan was defeated by a grappling style of judo... Did this stop judo from moving in its own direction... NO... As I've said before, judo is judo and that's what it intends to be, NOT BJJ, NOT karate, etc... Judo is a sport that focuses on throwing manuevers and self-defense tactics. Kano never intended judo to become a ground fighting system, hence, many of these techniques were eliminated.
You should also examine the environment in which these two styles evolved. Judo evolved from a culture that was moving away from fuedalism... Japan is considered one of the safest places to live. In Japan, martialism is considered barbaric and a thing of the past. Hence, Kano was merely preserving a peice of Japan's history, but through a sporting aspect. This is also true of martial arts in countries like the US. We don't fight in the streets, we train for sport and self-defense. Fighting is frowned upon by the public.
In contrast, Brazil is has been a lawless country with much violence. Fighting in the streets was not unusual... But of recently, things have improved... Hence, BJJ has become more sport oriented.
In a NHB environment, BJJ TECHNIQUES will have a slight advantage because of its background in Vale Tudo, but the most important thing is the fighter's preparation and skill level. I'm a solid grappler as it pertains to the rules of BJJ. Being in BJJ doesn't make me a "killer."
So the next time you vist a karate,Muay Thai or judo gym, I'd adise you show some humility.
First of all, judo is judo, not BJJ. The rules are different and so is the emphasis. Most judo clubs emphasize throwing. In fact, at some clubs, once you hit the ground, the match is over. In contrast, submissions is the mainstay of BJJ. That's what you train to do in BJJ. So if you're engaged in a submissions match BJJ-style, ofcourse a BJJ guy should win. If you want to randori judo-style, I'll bet the Judo guy throws you on your can. That Rickson defeated judo guys at a local club, one after another, means only one thing — BJJ will win most of the time in a submissions match.
People act like this was the first time judo has been beaten by submissions. Before Olympic Judo, Kano's Kudokan was defeated by a grappling style of judo... Did this stop judo from moving in its own direction... NO... As I've said before, judo is judo and that's what it intends to be, NOT BJJ, NOT karate, etc... Judo is a sport that focuses on throwing manuevers and self-defense tactics. Kano never intended judo to become a ground fighting system, hence, many of these techniques were eliminated.
You should also examine the environment in which these two styles evolved. Judo evolved from a culture that was moving away from fuedalism... Japan is considered one of the safest places to live. In Japan, martialism is considered barbaric and a thing of the past. Hence, Kano was merely preserving a peice of Japan's history, but through a sporting aspect. This is also true of martial arts in countries like the US. We don't fight in the streets, we train for sport and self-defense. Fighting is frowned upon by the public.
In contrast, Brazil is has been a lawless country with much violence. Fighting in the streets was not unusual... But of recently, things have improved... Hence, BJJ has become more sport oriented.
In a NHB environment, BJJ TECHNIQUES will have a slight advantage because of its background in Vale Tudo, but the most important thing is the fighter's preparation and skill level. I'm a solid grappler as it pertains to the rules of BJJ. Being in BJJ doesn't make me a "killer."
So the next time you vist a karate,Muay Thai or judo gym, I'd adise you show some humility.
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