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  • #31
    I started this thread with an interview of Master Chai, and I’ll end it with one as well.
    Enjoy.

    Part one:

    Surachai “Chai” Sirisute
    The World Is His Gym
    By Jose Fargaus

    A natural fighter as a child who went on to become a champion in Thailand’s toughest stadiums, master Surachai “Chai” Sirisute has spread the art of Muay Thai around the globe, earning the respect and admiration from all with whom he’s come into contact.
    At the tender age of four, Surachai Sirisute demonstrated a natural ability to kick. This piqued the curiosity of Thai boxing master Ajarn Suwan, who taught him the art of Muay Thai. At 12, young “Chai”, as he was called, was fighting in amateur bouts at the local temple fair.
    After he became a champion at the two most important stadiums in Thailand, Chai, now called “master” himself, decided to change his life and begin a challenging quest to teach the art to the “Brown hairs” (Americans). Since 1964, Ajarn Chai has been teaching the art of Muay Thai in the United States and all over the world. His reputation has reached every corner of the globe and his training sessions became legendary for their intensity. He is a hard trainer and time moves very slowly on the Ajarn stopwatch – three minute rounds on the Thai Pads often stretch to five – for a minimum of 15 rounds!
    The Thai people are devoted to astrology, palmistry, and numerology. Ajarn Chai’s ring name Han Vattana, meaning “Strong Fighter”. Many legendary instructors of other different martial art systems have visited Ajarn Chai for instruction. His ability not only includes empty-hand methods, but also weaponry. Students from all over the world revere him like a father. He has earned that level of respect by sharing Muay Thai with love, compassion, empathy, dedication – and lots and lots of endless and exhausting training sessions. This is his story.

    Q: Can you explain the history of Muay Thai?

    A: Thai boxing is one of the oldest martial arts in existence. Its origin dates back to 250 B.C., when the Thai clans migrated from central China on the banks of the Yangtze River to Thailand. The Thai’s began a military training regimen for their young men called chupasart, which dealt mainly with the use of swords, spears, and crossbows. In peacetime, legs and arms replaced weaponry, and these movements became the basis of modern Thai boxing.


    Q: When did you begin your training in the Thai arts?

    A: I started as a young kid in the training camps in Huay Kwang-Dindang province in Thailand. Everybody knows this province for producing great champions. As a kid I was always ready to fight. I began fighting in the ring at 12 years old. I still remember the surprised faces of the Western tourist watching us fighting!


    Q: When did you move to the United States?

    A: I came to the United States in the early 60’s, so I’ve been here for a long time. I wanted to light a candle where it was dark concerning the Thai arts. Ajarn Suwan told me to come here to teach the art and spread it all over the world.


    Q: You are the President and founder of USA Thai Boxing Association. Don’t you have different associations around the world?

    A: Yes. We have Thai boxing associations operating in the United States, Mexico, Spain, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, and more. Some very dedicated students of mine came to the United States to get their training and later on returned to open the associations. We keep in touch and I update their training constantly so they keep improving their techniques and understanding of the Muay Thai art. Some of them have been with me for more than 15 years non-stop. We feel close to each other and are like a family now.


    Q: Is Muay Thai like Kickboxing?

    A: This is wrong. Kickboxing is not Thai boxing. We say that kickboxing evolved from Thai boxing. In kikcboxing you have specific rules as to where you can kick and with what weapons. In Thai boxing the whole body is fair game. You can use elbow and knee techniques, which are illegal in many fighting competitions.


    Q: Someone said once that Muay Thai boxing skills are very primitive and almost non-existent. What do you think about that?

    A: Whoever said that had no idea what he was talking about. The Thai boxer doesn’t use boxing very much because in boxing distance the Thai arsenal includes the elbows and knees. Both are more damaging than punching with a glove on. So they prefer to use the elbow to the face and the knee to the ribs instead of boxing with gloves. This is just one thing of many. But it’s nonsense to say that the Thai’s don’t know how to box – this is a misunderstanding. Everybody knows that many world-boxing champions from Thailand have been Muay Thai champions that made a transition to Western boxing.


    Q: How long does it take to become a good Thai fighter?

    A: I know what I am going to say may be hard for some to accept, for it destroys the notion that a practitioner must train for five or six years to attain the Black belt rank. If you work on your conditioning, run, skip rope, hit Thai pads, the heavy bag, spar and fight once a month, you can become a strong fighter in six months. Stamina, experience, and heart are the basics of Thai boxing. I believe that the one standing after the fight is the true expert.

    To be continued:

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    • #32
      Well, it's been a while since I've been on the boards. So, for the folks new to Muay Thai and/or Krabi-Krabong, happy reading.

      William

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      • #33
        Master Chai on 'cross training and the mind'

        Master Chai told me this during a long drive in my pickup. When he was very young, about 4 years old, the Sirisute family lived between 2 martial arts schools, Ajarn Suwan's muay Thai school, and a Kung Fu school. Chai (as he was called then, and I will use that name throughout) was always watching the Thai Boxing classes and, like every small Thai child, was constantly kicking in the air and practicing his movements. And after the Kung Fu classes were over, he would pick fights with the students as they were leaving, sometimes footjabbing their backs and cut-kicking their legs just for a laugh. He would make fun of their kata, and imitate their kiais. In his own words, he 'had no respect'. One evening the Kung Fu Master came over to have some words with Chai's father, Mr Sirisute. After explaining young Chai's antics to Mr Sirisute, the Master suggested he be enrolled in Kung Fu. Chai's father, a struggling attorney, agreed. Chai had been a handful since the day he was born, and this seemed a good opportunity to work off some of that extra energy. So, Chai started in the last row, the smallest student. As usual, he would giggle and play and footjab the students in front of him, then leg kick when they turned to respond. All the time, trouble, trouble, trouble. Finally, the Master had reached his limit. 'Chai, you stay after class.' Chai told me he gulped and thought to himself 'uh-oh, I'm gonna get it now. Probably twice, once from the Master and again when my Father gets home.' After everyone had left and he had closed the school, the Master told Chai 'go outside and bring in that bundle of bamboo and those two cement bricks.' Chai did as he was told, laying them on the floor in the center of the school. The Master then directed him to place a bamboo slat across the span between the bricks. He (the Master) proceeded to balance himself on the bamboo. 'See, it's easy. Can you do it?' Chai placed one foot on the bamboo, then the other, carefully maintaining his balance. The bamboo broke. ??? 'Place another piece between the bricks.' He did so, and again the Master stood on the slat. 'Now you.' Again Chai broke the bamboo. ??? What is this? He is only 4 years old and the Master is at least 3 times his weight. At that moment, he told me, 'I decided there must be something mental about the martial arts.'

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        • #34
          Bump

          Time to bring this back out of storage again for the un-initiated. I also see I didn't post the rest of the article on Master Chai. I'll start digging.....



          William

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          • #35
            Great Minds Think Alike

            LOL I have known William for a long time now, and wish he hadn't moved to the East Coast a couple of years ago. It was always a pleasure training with him, and I can honestly say I truly miss him and his family. Funnily enough, and of concern to this thread, I was just reading this very interview before I logged onto Defend.net So, I will finish it for you, William. Thanks again

            Questions are by Jose Fraguas, answers by Surachai Sirisute.

            Q: Because of the dangers of the muay Thai techniques, is hard sparring common in the training camps of Thailand?

            A: They spar a lot but the hard sparring is kept to a minimum. To go all out, even with training equipment on, could be very damaging and non-productive. They do hard boxing with gloves and headgear on but they go light sparring with the legs and elbows, mainly for timing. Ring and sparring experience are very important. A good Thai fighter must learn certain timings in order to know the opponent's movements.

            Q: How many hours of daily training do professional fighters (in) Thailand do?

            A: Somewhere from six-to-eight every day.

            Q: How do you start training a beginner?

            A: First, the beginner shouldn't be afraid of hard training. I usually start them off with basic footwork, basic punches, elbow, and knee combinations. Then they are taught the roundhouse kick, which for many is Thai boxing's trademark. It takes about two months for beginners to reach the conditioning level to be able to work in a continuous training circuit for two or three hours. You have to train like this for five days every week. Thai boxing teaching is very demanding. It's as exhausting to teach as it is to learn. The repetitions are murder but my students know what I expect from them. They are self-motivated. There's no need to tell them what to do.

            Q: How do you gauge a new student's heart?

            A: After the student has built stamina on the roundkick, I ask him to kick the heavy bag 500 times. If he reaches 500 and keeps going I feel happy and I work harder on him. I know that his spirit is strong.

            Q: Do you use any belt ranking?

            A: No thanks! No belts here.

            Q: Would you ever train a woman to fight in Thai boxing?

            A: I did already. Even if she wanted to fight a man, I wouldn't stop her.

            Q: You took an American team to Thailand, is that right?

            A: Yes, I did. The first time was in 1982 and we stunned the Thai community by taking a third-place team trophy at an international meet at Rajadamnern Stadium, one of the two biggest arenas.

            Q: Did your countrymen advise you not to teach Westerners?

            A: No, never. I always had a total support from my teachers and the government of Thailand, including the king and the queen, to spread the art around the world.

            Q: Thai boxing's low-line kicking method is devastating. How easy is (it) to break a leg?

            A: Well, it is not that easy if you're moving all the time. It may hurt real bad but it won't break your leg if you know how to deal with it. If you don't, then you're out with a broken leg, that's for sure. In kickboxing it's forbidden to kick to the inner part of the upper thighs because this is where the sciatic nerve groups are located and it is very dangerous. In Thai boxing they love to kick there. The Thai boxer's primary objective is to numb the legs so the opponent can't move or evade blows.

            Q: What's your philosophy of teaching?

            A: I've come to realize how important it is to personally teach those students who are really serious and dedicated. But don't misunderstand me; I don't try to withhold any knowledge from anyone. My teaching is for everybody.

            Q: Do you use high kicking in Thai boxing?

            A: Yes we do, but the Thai precept is, "Kill the body and the head dies." We begin killing the legs so the opponent can't move, then we go for the upper body and head. The opponent becomes a heavy bag to us.

            Q: How do you transfer muay Thai ring skills to street self-defense?

            A: Well, fighting in a ring is very different than fighting for your life on the street. In the ring muay Thai is a sport, a very hard sport, but a sport nonetheless. But in the sgtreet there are no rules. In muay Thai we have fighting techniques that are strictly used for self-defense and are forbidden in the ring.

            Q: Do you know the art of krabi krabong?

            A: Yes, I do. It's the ancient art and is not a sport. It's for military and fighting purposes only. They use sword, knife, spear, and the techniques used in krabi krabong are not allowed in Thai boxing.

            Q: Did you train the Dallas Cowboys football team?

            A: Yes. My student and friend Dan Inosanto introduced me to Dr. Bob Ward,who was an Inosanto student and a coach of the Cowboys. He was impressed with the training and conditioning methods so he arranged for me to go every year, for three months, to their pre-season training camp.

            Q: What did you think of the Dallas players the first time you saw them?

            A: They were great athletes but they were lacking stamina. So I'd work them on the Thai pads. In the beginning they were huffing and puffing after only a couple of minutes. But after a few training sessions they really improved.

            Q: Do you feel your teachings have been well-received?

            A: Yes, I do. I feel very grateful to all my students around the world. I always tell them, "If I can do it, you can do it." Together, we have all been doing a great job spreading the art of Thai boxing.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by chalambok View Post
              LOL I have known William for a long time now, and wish he hadn't moved to the East Coast a couple of years ago. It was always a pleasure training with him, and I can honestly say I truly miss him and his family. Funnily enough, and of concern to this thread, I was just reading this very interview before I logged onto Defend.net So, I will finish it for you, William. Thanks again
              Thank you for your kind words Ajarn. I miss training and hanging out with you as well. Those were fun times training, laughing, and training even harder. Yee Haw!! Connor is always asking about you when he sees that picture of you, John C. and myself. Kristen asked me to say hi for her too.....So, from the whole William Clan "Hi Steve!".

              Also, thank you for posting the rest of the Master Chai article. I started looking for it but haven't found it yet. You saved me a lot of time rooting around (though I would have kept going until I found it).

              All the best Ajarn!!!


              Your friend and student always,
              William

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              • #37
                Once again,diggin up this thread for mt newbies

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                • #38
                  chaiya wanarat returns and kick of death is his new alias.

                  one post and digging back to 2006 for a post for mt newbies?
                  Last edited by george stando; 12-16-2010, 07:57 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Well, it's still fun to go back and read regardless.



                    William

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