women-only gyms

[blitz]

Actually seppuku, THERE ARE A+'s, IGCSE's which are part of the british system have A*'s.. And I would know I had my IGCSE's last year I scored a B average but my friends had A*s on their report card. And the report card comes from Cambridge University, a British university!

[seppuku]

what are IGCSE's? that the same as GCSE? if so then yeah they have A*, i know that. im talking about A levels, not the exams taken at 16.

also knew cambridge was british.. was there last week after all. what does a report card from the uni have A level grades on it for?

thinking about it... is IGCSE international GCSE? A levels are GCS, no S there. the A levels ive taken very definately do not have an A+. The guy i know on full marks in physics really would have one othewise.
also the UCAS website where the applications are processed would give an option for A* on the part where you enter grades...

[blitz]

Yeah its international GCSE :P
I'm taking my AS's in january and june so I don't know about the A*'s in A Levels.
The report card for A levels is from the Edexcel board. But the IGCSE's come from Cambrdige University. I'll try take a pic of it.

[seppuku]

dont worry about the picture mate, i dont doubt GCSE and IGCSE equate to the same thing. sorry about the confusion there. AS in january sounds familiar tho... ive got about 4 weeks before my first set of A2s. what subjects are you taking?

well done on the GCSE, B average is really quite good there.

[Blue Wave Gym]

nice pissing contest you guys have gotten into and ruined the topic

news flash men and women look at each other and want to be looked at 24/7(especially ever guy in the world he he he) (ever hear a guy say I feel so used it's never happened in the history of guys)Ok back on topic, most of the clothes women wear today are designed to show off their bodies i.e. the looking like I just stepped out of a club look that's now in every possible situation throughout the day, and as far as womens workout clothes need I say more. It's simple if you don't want to be looked at dress conservatively not that that would stop any red blooded american male such as myself if you're hot, I'm looking . Now it's a 2 way street though and ask you're self why women who aren't into martial arts/fighting would want to go ot kb, mt,mma or boxing events hmmmmm???? Perhaps it's the shirtless muscular testosterone type brute guys doing caveman stuff.Remember when a guy grabs the other guys trunks in mma thus exposing his ass how many chicks will wistle and say stuff in the audience LOL.in conclusion if you're a women and you're goood looking you're always going to get looked at no matter what situation you're in men are visual creatures(women too) so that's the way it is hopefuly they will be discreate about it.

[JAdams]

news flash men and women look at each other and want to be looked at 24/7(especially ever guy in the world he he he) (ever hear a guy say I feel so used it's never happened in the history of guys)Ok back on topic, most of the clothes women wear today are designed to show off their bodies i.e. the looking like I just stepped out of a club look that's now in every possible situation throughout the day, and as far as womens workout clothes need I say more. It's simple if you don't want to be looked at dress conservatively not that that would stop any red blooded american male such as myself if you're hot, I'm looking . Now it's a 2 way street though and ask you're self why women who aren't into martial arts/fighting would want to go ot kb, mt,mma or boxing events hmmmmm???? Perhaps it's the shirtless muscular testosterone type brute guys doing caveman stuff.Remember when a guy grabs the other guys trunks in mma thus exposing his ass how many chicks will wistle and say stuff in the audience LOL.in conclusion if you're a women and you're goood looking you're always going to get looked at no matter what situation you're in men are visual creatures(women too) so that's the way it is hopefuly they will be discreate about it.

Thank you. I agree completely.

[blitz]

dont worry about the picture mate, i dont doubt GCSE and IGCSE equate to the same thing. sorry about the confusion there. AS in january sounds familiar tho... ive got about 4 weeks before my first set of A2s. what subjects are you taking?

well done on the GCSE, B average is really quite good there.

I take math/physics/computing/arabic.

[Tom Yum]

It's simple if you don't want to be looked at dress conservatively.

This pretty much sums it up. Other reasons women dress to show off their body is power. Power of the flesh. Like the scene on Basic Instinct with Sharon Stone.

It takes discipline to be able to read through that attempt at your power.

[treelizard]

It's simple if you don't want to be looked at dress conservatively not that that would stop any red blooded american male such

See that's the thing, dressing conservatively just DOESN'T WORK.

[treelizard]

One more thing... Don't you think there's power involved in women feeling like they need to wear baggy clothes to get guys to leave them alone? They are being manipulated to dress badly.

This pretty much sums it up. Other reasons women dress to show off their body is power. Power of the flesh. Like the scene on Basic Instinct with Sharon Stone.

It takes discipline to be able to read through that attempt at your power.

[Tom Yum]

Don't you think there's power involved in women feeling like they need to wear baggy clothes to get guys to leave them alone? .

Nope.

They are being manipulated to dress badly.

Just like the way guys are manipulated to say they earn less than they do?

[Tom Yum]

See that's the thing, dressing conservatively just DOESN'T WORK.

It helps.

Bottom line: this is a free country and women can wear what they please and they do. Ladies get together to go out and they look great.

Sometimes they do it to feel good about themselves, sometimes they do it for attention and other times they do it for power.

[treelizard]

It helps.

You know, I used to think that until I read the muggability report, which indicated that body language (not clothing) is what makes women targets. And I had heard similar things in WSD classes and other places. Now I usually dress pretty modestly, though I've moved away from trying to wear clothes five sizes too big so as to detract from attention I'm gonna get anyway (no, it DOESN'T work.) So I did a little experiment and wore this little tiny black tanktop all day one day, with my bike shorts, just to walk around and run errands. I went to the grocery store, the used bookstore, etc. I walked home the same route I usually walk from one of my favorite cafes. To my surprise, I didn't get more attention than usual. One guy in the bookstore followed me a bit and asked for my phone number, but that's something that happens to me fairly regularly. This guy didn't seem any more or less sketchy than guys I usu. run into. He also went away when I said thanks but no thanks, which doesn't always happen (I usually have to repeat myself.) And while I think I got more stares from guys in cars than usual, people didn't hold eye contact for as long and would look away a lot quicker. And nobody yelled at me from their car (something that happens to me when I dress normal.)

In any case, dressing differently hasn't worked for me. This is what has:

*Driving instead of riding my bike, riding my bike instead of walking ("by the time you see me, I'll be gone! You're the reason I'm travellin' on..." ok sorry, some Bob Dylan there.)

*Changing my routine (i.e. going to the gym at 1 AM instead of during "prime time" and not jogging past frat houses)

*Hanging out at home or amongst good friends instead of around mostly strangers in loud crowded places, esp. if I'm drinking

*Body language

*Awareness

*Strong verbal boundary-setting

*Picking up random large objects

[Tom Yum]

That's great advice you have there.

[Forbidden Fury]

now look at the silly thing I say.... weightlifting is a bad, bad thing for girls to do lots of. the high weight, low rep thing is not a good one. im assuming you want to look good by going to the gym, since thats why i find myself in them (i am a guy tho and could be confused there). girls covered in muscle are not sexy at all. really not a good thing to see. athletic, toned is definitely good. 6 packs are scary on a girl. huge biceps? not attractive...

That's actually a pretty sexist thing to say. Weightlifting is very good and everyone should to it. And no one should be doing "a lot" of it to start with. Too much working out actually does more harm than good. And not only do some women want to be more muscular, and there is nothing wrong with that, but some guys like it as well. Besides, most women, and many men for that matter, can not get huge muscles without taking additives, no matter how much they work out or with how much weight. Many bodies can only reach a certain point before its nearly impossible for them to get bigger.

I know this one woman that works out a lot. She used to play soccer and is going into fitness training for her degree. She got up to about 170 lbs benching (estimated), and you'd never be able to tell by looking at her that she could bench that much. She didn't have huge anything, but she was toned and solid. But that's about as big as her body could get, it hit a wall. And there was little she could do to increase that. Even when she was able to slowly add weight to her program, it didn't increase her size in the least.

And lifting heavy weights for a lower rep count builds more strength. Sure, it will increase size some, but it is not the best way to increase size if that's the goal.

Besides, women should work out and get fit for themselves, not for men. If you don't think its attractive, someone else will. And gender stereotypes SUCK.