Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

America Haters, Bitchers, And Complainers

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • America Haters, Bitchers, And Complainers

    originally posted in http://thehc.iblogs.com/

    The English language has no good word for the people I'm going to talk about. To get a good descriptive word, I had to turn to the Jewish language, Yiddish. The word is "kvetch". It means someone who can always find something wrong with any given situation. Beyond just a complainer, more committed than the bitcher, a kvetch simply can not be pleased.

    America is, unfortunately, polluted with kvetches. They're in the media, in the classroom, on the web, and in the bar down the road. They worship Michael Moore and read the New York Times religiously. They know everything that America, white males, and Christianity has done wrong in the last 2000 years. Try to convince a kvetch that things aren't all that bad and you'll get a scorching diatribe filled with half-facts and conspiracy theories designed to convince you that the world will surely end any day now and you are the foolish one for not owning a generator and a months supply of food. The only thing that might save us, they'll say, is if the whole world could just abandon guns, war, government, capitalism, and Fox news. But, since that can't happen because of all the aformentioned conspiracies, we're all doomed. I honestly don't know what keeps these people from killing themselves.

    They replaced the kvetchs of the past, who reigned supreme during the Clinton administration. They worshiped Rush Limbaugh and read the Bible religiously. They know everything that Communism, Pot-Smokin' Hippy Liberals, Feminists, and the A.C.L.U. has done to destroy our beloved America over the past 50 years. They are certain that Clinton was the Anti-Christ and the Apocalyspe is just around the corner. Question them and risk having the Bible quoted for 20 minutes. They're equally depressed as the other kvetches, but their religion won't allow them to kill themselves.

    Funny how the only thing they agree on is….we're all doomed.

    Now, the only way to defend ourselves from these kvetches, and not become as depressed as they are, is for us to arm ourselves with more positive facts then they can stand. Optimism is like Kryptonite to kvetches. For this reason I've compiled a list of good things about America that most of us forget about.

    To start off with, be grateful you were even born here. Your odds at birth stood at 1 in 20, Your best odds were to be born in India or China. Where you almost certainly would have lived in abject poverty. You, my friend, hit the lottery at birth.

    The United States is an economic powerhouse. Even with the globalization of the world's economy, the U.S. still stands supreme. With a 12.3 trillion dollar G.D.P. that saw a 3.5% growth in 2005. America dwarfs every other country economically. Most of Europe saw less than 1% growth in that same year. The U.S. also has one of the lowest unemployment rates of the major industrialized nations. A quick comparison to some of them shows clearly how much better our economy is. While the U.S. is experiencing unemployment at 4.7%, Germany is sputtering along at 11.6%, France is not doing much better at 10%. In fact, since Sept. 2003, the U.S. has created 5.1 million jobs net. Workers in the U.S. average higher pay than their Europian counterparts too. The average household in the U.S. made approx. $44,000.00, while in France the average was $30,000.00, and in Germany it was 29,800.00. The end result of high wages, low taxes, (only two countries have lower, Iceland and Poland) and good growth, is Americans live better economically than people in most countries in the world. Just talk to someone from Europe, they'll wonder why we need so many T.V.'s, why each of us has a car, and why even our poorest citizens have their own cell phones. The truth is, we live so good, most people from other countries view us as pigs, extravagant over-consumers. For the most part they're right, we're spoiled to death.

    America, however, is also very benevolent, we are the worlds' number 1 provider of food aid in disasters. In fact, without the U.S. aid, millions of people around the world would starve. In the 1990's the U.S. provided 55% of the world's food aid. The entire E.U. provided only 28% even though their combined G.D.P. was more than the U.S.. The U.S. spent 92 million in 2005 to prevent famine in the horn of Africa, and so far in 2006, we've committed 175 million.

    But it's not just food we supply, we also lead the world in medical aid given to Africa and other developing countries. Over 5 years, the U.S gave 15 billion dollars to fight hiv/aids. Bill Gates, an American, gave over 1 billion dollars by himself. It should also be noted that most of the drugs used in these countries were discovered and produced in America. Without them, aids/hiv, malaria, tuberculosis, and other diseases would wipe out most of these countries.

    The U.S. is also the world leader in disaster relief. After the tsunami that destroyed Sri Lanka and Indonesia, the U.S. pledged 350 million dollars to help them rebuild. In Feb. of 2005 we then upped the ante with an additional 701 million. It's not the first time America helped with a major disaster. In 1998 after hurricane Mitch destroyed Honduras and Central America, the U.S. came through with 308.4 million dollars in aid actually spent. It should be noted here that the U.S. is one of the few countries that come through on their pledges. Most countries make a big media event out of their pledges and then quietly send far less. We do all of this despite the fact that the very countries we help, bad mouth us at every opportunity. We even help Palestine, that regularly threatens us. Over the past 10 years we have averaged 90 million dollars a year for Palestine while it's Arab "friends" have averaged 35 million dollars combined.

    Probably the greatest attribute America has is opportunity. America is full of stories of self made millionaires and billionaires. From Bill Gates to Oprah Winfrey to Paul Allen, America gives the chance for hard working, creative people to be all they can be. You may be able to find places where lazy people can fair better, but America is where you want to be if you want to get rich through hard work and your own talents.

    Now, I know the U.S. has it's faults, I'll leave that to the kvetches to point out, but America has the unique ability to find it's own faults and correct them. From slavery to womens rights, America see her wrongs and rights them. After two world wars that saw the U.S. liberate country after country only to give them back to their people, to civil battles to reach a point where people of different religions, colors, and political opinions all live and work together, America has perservered. There is a prideful feeling that we all should have here in America, that even though we don't have the history of some of the older countries, we took the mutts of the world, in some cases people that others threw out, and created the stongest country on earth, built on the backs of people who shared only a common country. No where else on earth can you find such a mix of people. In the end, if you look at all the great things the U.S. has done, she really has been a country to be proud of.

    Einstein was once asked what advice he gave to his own children? He replied, "I told them they could live in a positive world or a negative world, but it is their choice." I could not agree more. I fully expect that all you kvetches will pick every positive thing I said about America apart and assume her intentions were always for profit or power, that's fine. It's what you do best, but just once, try for a minute to live in a positive world, for all her faults, the U.S. is still the one place I would want to call home. H.C.

  • #2
    Too long, I didn't read it all luv. What's the general jist?

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by nutter
      Too long, I didn't read it all luv. What's the general jist?
      I'll sell you the Cliff's Notes for 20 pounds...

      Comment


      • #4
        Right so this is a USA nutriding type thread right mate?

        PS. More Philosophically???? Damn, the Brits should never have inv ented liberty in the first bloody place right.

        Comment


        • #5
          Yeah Britain invented the modern concept of Liberty mate. The original Bill of Rights was made in 1689 in Britain right. "An Act Declaring the Rights and Liberties of the Subject and Settling the Succession of the Crown". The US Bill Of Rights is just a poor copy of an English concept limiting the power of the state innit. Brush up on your history before you start spouting USA propaganda right.

          Comment


          • #6
            Just when I made a post about loving England and the English culture... I endorse abortion for people who grow up like nutter, or better yet urge those nutters to aim it into the toilet bowl... brilliant, innit?

            Comment


            • #7
              No matey, you're in serious danger of disapearing up your own arse on this one right. All this bollocks about "kvetches" is just a way of sticking a negative label on everyone who doesn't share the USA-nutriding world view in a self-serving exercise designed to justify the dismissing of all opposing views without the need to present a consistant and rational argument to substantiate your insubstantial and irrational world view innit.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                The Brits invented liberty, huh?
                Nah, the word 'liberty' will no doubt have a Latin (maybe French) root, but the concept will be impossible to date.

                Was that before or after they subjugated much of the world as part of their empire?
                That's history, but the same things go on today, getting called different things depending on the motive and the budget for marketing.

                Besides, this thread isn't about whether Britain is a good place to live. I love the UK, and I have several friends there. Great Britain hasa long and wonderful history, dotted with some scandalous and not-so-happy moments of its own, much like the US. None of that is the point.
                True.


                Point is, without America, there'd be no UK left -
                If there was no UK, there would never have been an America.


                as Churchill knew full well. That's why he went to such extremes to draw us into World War II.
                That's why he was willing to lure US transport ships into U-Boat filled waters only to have merchants torpedoed by the Nazis.
                I can just picture Churchill, regailed in his Union Jack Swimming Costume, playing pied piper while US transports sailed into one huge trap.



                It's why he was willing to hide (and even fabricate) intelligence involving threats to the US. And it's eventually why we stepped in and put an end to the greates threat to the survival of the Kingdom in modern times. So I guess even the liberty you now enjoy is a result of the greatness of America as well. You're welcome, by the way.
                This is not the kind of comment I expect from someone ambivalent/educated in the history of war.

                Liberty. Just one more service we provide.


                So this is not so much a USA nutriding thread - just another person pointing out that people like you are completely full of shit. Wierd how they know that without even knowing you - innit?
                Fair enough.
                Nutter isn't worth wasting time with, but don't disrespect a country, and a people within it who gave up their lives and freedom in WW2 long before America found it in their best financial interests to become involved.
                Had it not been for the sacrifices of lesser nations, you'd be eating sauerkraut and venuschnizel right now.


                Einstein was once asked what advice he gave to his own children? He replied, "I told them they could live in a positive world or a negative world, but it is their choice." I could not agree more. I fully expect that all you kvetches will pick every positive thing I said about America apart and assume her intentions were always for profit or power, that's fine. It's what you do best, but just once, try for a minute to live in a positive world, for all her faults, the U.S. is still the one place I would want to call home. H.C.
                The above is fine, but it applies to all countries, and not just America.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Opportunities abound. Hopefully one day I'll be able to make that $44,000 average income

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                    TV,
                    You can think it comical that Churchill was pulling strings to get America into the war, but it is an undeniable fact.
                    I don't see the significance.
                    What is it you are trying to say exactly?
                    That Churchill single-handedly pulled the US into a war it would have never gotten involved with bar the actions of one fat cigar toting scally wag?
                    this is what politicians do.
                    You could argue that Bush, pulled strings to get Britain involved in the war in Iraq more recently, yet in both hypothetical scenarios, there's more to the motives than moral highground, or other 'holy' justification.



                    For the record, I think it was right that we enter that war (despite all sorts of isolationist sentiment here at home), and I'm more than a little ashamed that Churchill was so adept at manipulating my country, but he did.
                    Is WW2 the only war you can find where you can blame someone outside to have manipulated the US into action?

                    but I also don't stand tall and try to take the credit when others bail me out.
                    Nor would any self respecting person expect to feel indebted to someone else for fighting for the same cause.
                    It's why they were called 'Allied' forces.

                    Had America not entered WW2 when it did, then America could have been facing the rest of the world as one united Nazi power, so maybe you should be thanking Mr Churchill?


                    You may choose to believe that the actions taken by your country are no different than the actions taken by the US, but look at the history - recent history, mind you - that we are trying to "unfuck" right now. Who drew the borders in the Middle East? Who drew Israel where it now sits? Who split up northern africa without regard to the tribes and cultures who lived there? Who sat at the table with a map and a pen and scribed straight lines to separate Arab countries with similar disregard? My point is that it's not who's right or wrong that matters. It's that these things have happened, and you can either cop to it and become part of the solution, or deny your own role and criticize others for problems you helped create.
                    This is what happens in History.
                    now I appreiciate that America as a nation is comparatively new to the idea of being involved in history, but these lines of demarkation you draw are older than time.
                    Yup, there was a significant British Empire.
                    There were also Greek, Roman, Chinese, Ottoman, younameittheyhadit empires.
                    Me, I'm not criticising others for problems, and I personally, haven't created any.

                    What dissapoints me greatly is that;

                    A/ So little is done to reduce our dependance on fossil fuels at street level, particularly in the US.

                    B/ The real WOMD in the Middle East is ignored, as economies depend on the misery it causes, and the millions it kills.
                    Isn't Heroin something we should be eliminating?

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Troll Virus
                      There were also Greek, Roman, Chinese, Ottoman, younameittheyhadit empires.
                      Never heard of the last one mate, is it in America?


                      PS. Re US entering WW2 right. The current popular view among historians is that America was not dragged into the war or overly manipulated by Churchill. Roosovelt knew that facist growth world wide was not in the economic interest of USA so he wanted Nazi germany defeated even before Churchill approached him. Britain continuing to resist Nazi Germany in 1941, alone, was in US' best interests right. That is why he was so willing to sign the lend lease agreement and help Britain. Yes Churchill wanted more but he didn't really get it until fate played its turn. The Scottish sado is right, had Britain not stood defiant then America would have been worse off. Invading Nazi Europe without the springboard of UK and UK's possessions in North Africa would have been a non-starter. Not to mention the vital role played by the British capture and deciphering of the Enigma right. And Britain transferred a bloody shed load of technology to USA like radar, jet engines, supersonic research etc right.

                      America owed a lot to UK and Russia for making the outcome of WW2 what it was and Roosovelt knew it. Sadly the ungrateful moron that followed him did not.

                      Innit.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nutter
                        Never heard of the last one mate, is it in America?


                        PS. Re US entering WW2 right. The current popular view among historians is that America was not dragged into the war or overly manipulated by Churchill. Roosovelt knew that facist growth world wide was not in the economic interest of USA so he wanted Nazi germany defeated even before Churchill approached him. Britain continuing to resist Nazi Germany in 1941, alone, was in US' best interests right. That is why he was so willing to sign the lend lease agreement and help Britain. Yes Churchill wanted more but he didn't really get it until fate played its turn. The Scottish sado is right, had Britain not stood defiant then America would have been worse off. Invading Nazi Europe without the springboard of UK and UK's possessions in North Africa would have been a non-starter. Not to mention the vital role played by the British capture and deciphering of the Enigma right. And Britain transferred a bloody shed load of technology to USA like radar, jet engines, supersonic research etc right.

                        America owed a lot to UK and Russia for making the outcome of WW2 what it was and Roosovelt knew it. Sadly the ungrateful moron that followed him did not.

                        Innit.
                        Listen Twit.
                        I'm putting forward my views without being 'Anti' anything.
                        Who the **** are you to comment with such an air of authority?
                        Back to your Boys World annuals for some more statistics twerp.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          anyone who says the are 100% anything is 99% full of $#!%
                          I forget who said that but its so true..

                          fascist growth worldwide was good enough to keep Prescott Bush doing buisness with them untill stopped by an act of congress, wait till you get caught on the wrong side of the system it could possibly change your views about anything

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                            I First off, let me apologize. TV, I reread some of my posts, and I understand that I might have given the impression that I had some kind of case of the ass against Britain. Rest assured, I do not.
                            No offence taken Mike, and I understand to a degree.
                            The issues surrounding the whys and why nots of WW2 are like peeling layers off of an Onion.
                            The more you look, the more you find.
                            I get a little touchy about it perhaps, as I lost family in WW1 and WW2 which has repercussions to this day.
                            I also twice visited the battlefields of the Somme and Ypres, and several cemeteries.
                            I stood in silence for The Last Post at Menin Gate, where the town comes to a standstill each night in memory of those who gave their lives.
                            To me, when that is trivialised by someone claiming to have won something for somebody else, it's like a substitute player coming on at the last minute, scoring the telling touch down, and claiming victory as his own.

                            Now I haven't taken offence at anything at all, it's just my own personal slant on things.
                            Having been around forums long enough, I know America does come in for a lot of flak from other nationalities, but by and large this is;

                            a/ Idiots who know enough to cause an arguement.

                            b/ Idiots who know nothing, but still want an arguement.

                            I think as a general observation, Europeans are a bit thicker skinned when someone tilts a lance at them on forums.
                            It's something you just have to get used to, and once you've gotten used to it, you get to give back as good as you got.

                            That said, there are legitimate concerns about the US and it's policies.
                            One I'm taking very seriously right now, is the issue of Global Warming.
                            I don't know how seriously it's been taken by the US Press, but it's very big over here, with Blair under increasing pressure to put Bush in a submission hold over Greenhouse gas emissions before it's too late (if it's not too late already).
                            Fossil Fuels ARE going to run out in the near future, and instead of fighting for the lions share of what remains, it's time to re-think what we need them for and how we'll survive without them, presuming we haven't irrevocably ruined the planet.

                            Look forward to discussing these and other issues with you.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Troll Virus
                              I think as a general observation, Europeans are a bit thicker skinned when someone tilts a lance at them on forums.
                              It's something you just have to get used to, and once you've gotten used to it, you get to give back as good as you got.
                              Funny you say such a sweeping generalization that as I've received some interesting threats from trolls here, but remain.

                              Comment

                              Working...