Diet Soda?

[eXcessiveForce]

It depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

protien and carbs are needed after lifting. Carbs are turned to sugar during digestion. But fruit would be a source of carbs, but so could pasta.

I don't have a problem with some sugar after lifting but you don't want to over do it..

[treelizard]

Darn! lol

I've been doing snacks before and after working out--balanced snacks like a banana and some jerky, or an apple and some cheese.

[Sagacious Lu]

Thanks guys, I appreciate you breaking it down for me. This wouldn't be an issue for me except that all the soda machines where I work are free It sounds like I'll be fine as long as I don't overdo it.

[eXcessiveForce]

when I was younger and training 6 days a week 4+ hours a day, I would drink about 4-6 two liters a day of regular soda and I only weighed 132 lbs.


Now when I took a job that kept me from train and from eating putting in 18 hours a day behind a desk, I was drink about 20-28 cans of soda a day. Without the working out I started packing on the weight.

So while i'm convinced soda is not good for you, I also drink more soda that I should.

I would still stay away from diet soda's and instead go with an occasional regular soda.

And yes I have had caffine poisoning a few times in my life.

[lei_kung]

that is after the work out, if you eat a candy bar right before you start your workout, you are going to have a small energy burst and then begin to fade quickly. The Insulin will mess up your metabolism for awhile and keep you from transforming your other energy stores into usable energy.

After workout sugar is used to avoid catabolism where muscle would be broken down to fix other damaged muscles.

So insulin will not help you lift.

Very true in everything you said. I was mainly refering to the fact more muscle will be built by proper post-work-out-nutrition, thereby helping you lifting. I thought it was cute, but I now see that it could be confused. Everything I was taking about was POST WORK OUT.

Lei Kung

[treelizard]

I quit doing caffeine for about a month and now the idea of drinking soda makes me sick. You should try it... It's like hitting a reset button.

Didn't work for chocolate though.

[eXcessiveForce]

I have gone off soda several times, Right now I'm in caffine withdrawl for about the last week. When I get busy I often neglect eating so breakfast, and lunch can end up being a soda.

Now I try to stick with one or two soda's a day. I've over my limit today, but i've done pretty well for the last week or so.

I've also been working on eating better, Going back to my discipline rant I had the other day, It isn't easy but I am trying to make an effort. It means I don't get my 6 hours of sleep all the time, and I still end up missing meals but hopefully someday my life slows down and I can concentrate even more on healthy eating. This coming from someone who until very recently ended up eating out 7 days a week 1 to 2 times a day.

[treelizard]

I'm trying to limit myself too... I'm trying to only eat chocolate or ice cream twice a week, light drinking only once every week or two (in moderation!) and eating out once a week (mmm, Indian food..) My friends who Zone usually take one full day off, or three meals, every week or two.

I have that problem too of not eating when I get busy, or eating at diners... so I've been trying to sit down and do menu planning every week and then buy groceries. Also have some emergency quick breakfasts--like today I just added cottage cheese to sliced melon, and I always keep extra smoothies in the fridge.

[blitz]

I eat a bar of chocolate after lifting weights, then I eat my meal after half an hour. I hate caffeine in general, I drink a pepsi once every month or two when there is no water around. I drink about 4-5 litres of water a day. I don't know, I can't get enough of it!

[EmptyneSs]

ive heard that many bodybuilders take insulin to get bigger. i also have a friend who takes insulin because he is diabetic and he is pretty muscular for his size despite only working out occasionally.

[eXcessiveForce]

Insulin is not a performance enhancing substance.


Anyone who injects insulin that is not deficient is a moron. That can kill you.

Diabetics often gain weight as the age in the form of fat. They lose circulation to the legs (and often end up getting their feet amputated) They lose their vision and they do not heal well from wounds. That would include the healing of muscle after workouts.

So if you know people doing this they are poorly informed

[EmptyneSs]

Insulin is not a performance enhancing substance.


Anyone who injects insulin that is not deficient is a moron. That can kill you.

Diabetics often gain weight as the age in the form of fat. They lose circulation to the legs (and often end up getting their feet amputated) They lose their vision and they do not heal well from wounds. That would include the healing of muscle after workouts.

So if you know people doing this they are poorly informed

taking it can be fatal, but its still pretty popular among bodybuilders. theres tons of info on it on the net. look a this site. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catinsulin.htm

[eXcessiveForce]

So what they are telling you in that article is that the steroids screw up your system and shut down your insulin production in your body. Thus you become a diabetic. So You are taking insulin to correct something you already disrupted.


This is not the same as a healthy person purposely destorying their bodies ability to create insulin by oversupplying the body with it.

[Hikage]

How does Splenda fit into this whole discussion? You said that aspartame can cause insulin spikes, even though my diabetic father has been drinking it for years with no problems. More than likely, I will follow in his footsteps and will become diabetic later in life, around 50. (Sorry to those of you who are at or past that mark, but it's old; admit it.) I have been doing small things to put this off as long as possible. I avoid large amounts of carbs, I limit my simple sugars, and I try to range my calories between 2100 and 2400. Furthermore, when I can, I don't drink regular soda. However, I found that I cannot drink aspartame, as it gives me nasty headaches. I have since turned to the new line of Splenda drinks that many companies have begun producing. These have a good flavor, zero calories, and are supposed not to cause health problems down the road. What's the story on 'em?

-Hikage

[eXcessiveForce]

hard to say on splenda, It still causes an insulin spike, however this might not effect a diabetic especially if they are no longer producing enough insulin.


There just aren't a lot of long term studies on splenda, Some people are been raising the alarm that splenda may be harmful over the long term, but they don't really have any evidence to support this.