Fighting against someone 2x your size!

[Garland]

Youre right about kicking the groin. We're taught that we shouldn't think about it. If you get the opportunity, of course take it, but you are going to unleash some really primitive attitudes if you try to take out a mans family jewels. Peoples conscious will turn off, and they will instinctively protect their lives. The adrenaline surge isn't worth it.
Like bodhisattva said;
There's only two things to learn:
A) How to control your own weight and
B) how to control his weight for him.

I dunno....every time I've been hit in the nuts, I promptly fall into a fetal position and rock back and forth making feignt cooing noises trying to breathe. As has everybody I've ever accidentily beaned in the beans. But, hey, you never know, your hypothetical "assailant" might be a eunich...or a really burly woman intent on pillaging your man-chastity...

[jubaji]

I dunno....every time I've been hit in the nuts, I promptly fall into a fetal position and rock back and forth making feignt cooing noises trying to breathe. ...

You are weak

[MatthewAlphonso]

Or merely mortal, you need to be a god like me! But seriously, whenever I've hit people in the nuts (not often) the last thing on their mind is a counter attack. I'm sure with the adrenaline going strong it would be a bit different but still, there's always the oppurtunity.

Oh and not all Eunichs were fully castrated, most just had the testicles removed or, as in the case of Chinese eunichs, crushed. And I doubt you would be fighting a eunich (unless you were trying to get to the Caliphs harem) The process generally makes them very complacent and nonviolent. so :P plllllllllbbbbbbb

[bodhisattva]

You may fall to the ground when hit in the beans, but you probably aren't trying to maim or kill anyone when it happens, either. I'm just guessing, there.

It's kind of like stubbing your toe on something really solid, say, some old heavy wooden furniture. Walking from bedroom to kitchen to get a glass of water, if I stub my toe, I could swear the entire legion of hell was unleashed on that one hinge joint in my big toe. I'll roll around "oofing" and cursing for a minute or so. I'll think about how much I hate heavy furniture, toes, endorphins, nervous systems that have evolved TO FEEL pain, not to avoid it..etc. And then I'm ok. But for a second - I'm on fire.

However, RUNNING from my bedroom to the kitchen because Lyle Alzado pumped full of pcp has just BURST through my window and onto my bed wearing garters and carrying a SWORD..if I stub my toe in that situation, I doubt I'll even notice it.

Police reports are full of this sort of thing. People run away from a mugger, and when they get to a safe place, an onlooker will point out "You have a knife in your thigh".. Or someone will even lose a limb fleeing a catastrophe, and not even know until they calm down. Or the old standby, "Hey, Jim, You've been shot" "I have?..oh..crap.."


And, just to be clear, that has never happenned to me. That is: Lyle Alzado has never burst through my window pumped full of pcp, in garters, carrying a sword. Nor do I care for him to do so. Nor do I want any of you to do it. Just to be clear.

[koto_ryu]

I dunno....every time I've been hit in the nuts, I promptly fall into a fetal position and rock back and forth making feignt cooing noises trying to breathe. As has everybody I've ever accidentily beaned in the beans. But, hey, you never know, your hypothetical "assailant" might be a eunich...or a really burly woman intent on pillaging your man-chastity...

I used to play lacrosse without a cup. A groin shot is mostly psychological more than physical, once the initial shock wears off, you're fine. Tear those dingleberries off, however, and you have a different story

[Shaolinkfman]

Well being sorta big 6'5", I know that kicking me in the balls will just piss me off. Someone did it to me once and I broke their nose and knee'd them in the sternum causeing them to quit the fight (it was supposed to be friendly but the guy got viscious and cocky so when he kicked me I went psycho). It was kinda like what bodhisattva said about I didnt feel it until the adrenaline was down, and by then the fight was obviously over. In other words, don't kick a big guy in the nuts. It just pisses us off. What I would reccomend because of what I see as my personal weakness is in the sternum. A punch usually doesn't phase me to much but a nice strong kick works really well. Happy hunting!

[jcmack]

I would be careful about focussing your strategy on one particular technique though. It is like throwing all your eggs in one basket. Also, many big people who may not know much about fighting have been taught to always watch your balls in a fight. It was one of the first things I learned about fighting when I was a kid. Distance and movement are always great strategies. If he does manage to get hold of you and you don't trust your fighting abilities with him at close quarters there are other weak points you can go for if you are desperate. The eyes are always easy, the fingers are easy ways to control someone, the ears can easily be pulled off. Up under the jawline is a very painful place to apply pressure. It is also easy to control anyone by putting pressure on the bridge of their nose, or ripping nostrils with your fingers. In some of the defense course I have taught to women, we often teach attacking the gums with quick slicing actions of the fingernails as a distraction. There are many others, but I don't recomend using these unless you are desperate for your life since many of them will disable a person for the rest of their life.

[Tant01]

[QUOTE=Shaolinkfman]Well being sorta big 6'5", I know that kicking me in the balls will just piss me off. Someone did it to me once and I broke their nose and knee'd them in the sternum causeing them to quit the fight (it was supposed to be friendly but the guy got viscious and cocky so when he kicked me I went psycho)........
... In other words, don't kick a big guy in the nuts...it just pisses us off. ...QUOTE]


Groin shots are under rated IMO. Nothing is a sure thing when it comes to fighting but I've used variations of groin attacks on men of large stature and it's been 100% effective for me. Typical response has been droping to their knees before falling over as they roll into a fetal position. At the very least they drop their hands and give you their head. I'm not talking about an "accidental" or "friendly" shot, I'm talking about a palm or forearm smash, a solid knee or swift hard kick. Smashing the testicles is a hurtful thing to do and drops most men on the spot. A groin strike done correctly will hurt for WEEKS afterward! It's not a sure thing to end a fight but it is the beginning of the end in most cases. That's why we have "follow up" techniques, eh?

[Garland]

I used to play lacrosse without a cup. A groin shot is mostly psychological more than physical, once the initial shock wears off, you're fine. Tear those dingleberries off, however, and you have a different story

I used to play midi, man, one day my coach's seperated the team in two for a little scrimmage and the other coach sticked him in the nuts trying to box him out and get the ball. My god. There was nothing psychological about his reaction, wimpering and holding his balls...damn man, any guy should be able to sympathise with that...ouch.
The other coach turned it into a lesson...wear a cup or pay dearly.

You can't deny getting hit in the genitals hurts, unless you like that sort of thing, and even then there's a safeword if it goes too far, man.

[bodhisattva]

You can't deny getting hit in the genitals hurts, unless you like that sort of thing, and even then there's a safeword if it goes too far, man.

No one denied it. We're talking about what happens in VIOLENT situations with a DETERMINED attacker. That isn't a couple of coaches playing a game - trying to steal the ball from each other and one gets racked. Not by a LOOONG shot.

Safeword? Not even with a safeword, not with my jubies. Noway.

[MatthewAlphonso]

I s'pose you could prolly clap the ears (disorientation) punch the nipples, punch him in the underarm. Finger manipulation, a firm kick to the solar plexus...

[jubaji]

Wow,
People sure know a lot of ways to make a bigger person really determined to kill you.


Valuable skill.

[Tom Yum]

Wow,
People sure know a lot of ways to make a bigger person really determined to kill you.

Instead, try inviting him to a Korean BBQ. The smell of fresh kim chi might take the fight out of em... .

[jubaji]

Now there's an idea!

Instead, try inviting him to a Korean BBQ. The smell of fresh kim chi might take the fight out of em... .

Mmmmmmmm...kimchi


...no fight

...must eat

[Shaolinkfman]

Groin shots are under rated IMO. Nothing is a sure thing when it comes to fighting but I've used variations of groin attacks on men of large stature and it's been 100% effective for me. Typical response has been droping to their knees before falling over as they roll into a fetal position. At the very least they drop their hands and give you their head. I'm not talking about an "accidental" or "friendly" shot, I'm talking about a palm or forearm smash, a solid knee or swift hard kick. Smashing the testicles is a hurtful thing to do and drops most men on the spot. A groin strike done correctly will hurt for WEEKS afterward! It's not a sure thing to end a fight but it is the beginning of the end in most cases. That's why we have "follow up" techniques, eh?

Uhm yea it was a full fledged kick and yea it hurt like hell but I'm not going to let pain like that stop me from winning a fight or beating the shit out of someone. The only pain that would really stop me is like I said probably a kick to the sternum when im not prepared which is hard to get on me unless it is a sucker kick. I agree with jubajai
"Wow,
People sure know a lot of ways to make a bigger person really determined to kill you."