bjj question

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

i don't know about judo... those baggy gi things look uh... retarded

yea, not like those awesome, super-sleek bjj gis.......

[MSand114]

i didnt say other gis didnt look retarded... i just said the judo ones definitely do

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

i just thought it was an odd thing to say since from your first post i assume you're considering taking bjj. maybe i'm missing something here.

[jubaji]

what if i take bjj and i'm in a 2v1? do i take one guy to the ground, mess him up and let the other guy kick or punch the crap out of me?

and for people saying this probably wont happen or to run it wont cause i saw it in a dream and it's gonna happen.

Get off the drugs, kid.

[13ang]

Thinking about technique or planning out what your going do to is the first thing that will get you beat up in a 2v1 3v1 or whatever.

Just react. I have been mugged 3 times, all by 3 people, two by kids, one time by people who propably could have all beat me up.

The WORST possible thing you can ever do in this kind of situation is drop into some kind of fighting stance, and even look ready in any way shape or form. Beating up 3 people is almost easier than beating up 1 for one simple reason. You have the element of surprise.

Pick your moment, and react. However you think you can bring them down as quickly as possible. Take them out or stun then, and then run like hell.

[MasterGrappler]

Snapping an arm while standing only works sometimes. Not what you would call a high percentage technique/techniques.

Maybe for you, since you still lurk in the white belt realm, if that. Do u even train in BJJ? Im guessing no, since Hughes got owned and you are in denial, Id say you are a 'bruce, segal' type fan. ??

[J-Luck]

Maybe for you, since you still lurk in the white belt realm, if that. Do u even train in BJJ? Im guessing no, since Hughes got owned and you are in denial, Id say you are a 'bruce, segal' type fan. ??

No no no... ugh stupid child! How many times must I school you? Ugh! Well, here I go again.

A. the whole dynamic behind a standing lock other than flying armbars and such are low percentage moves... the just are. Let me explain what that is for you... I'll type REAL BIG SO YOU CAN GET IT OK? LOW PERCENTAGE MOVES ARE THOSE THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO FINISH INTRINSICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION, POSITION, OR THE WAY YOU SET UP OR APPLY THE TECHNIQUE. STANDING ARMLOCKS FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. IF YOUR WHITE BELT ASS DOESNT KNOW WHY, YOU WILL FIGURE IT OUT AS YOU MOVE UP. DONT WORRY, YOULL GET THERE SOMDAY.

ALSO, LOGIC/CRITICAL THINKING CLASSES WOULD DO YOU SOME GOOD. THOUGH MAYBE YOU'RE TOO UNINTELLIGENT/ INSECURE TO FIX THE ISSUE. OH WELL, CAN'T HELP THEM ALL I GUESS.

[J-Luck]

And no, I study Bjj under Tim Burrill, he is one of the first American black belts under Carlos Machado... you might have heard of him? I also study Judo, I wrestle and box. I consider myself primarily a grappler though. Hoping to start Muay Thai soon.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

I think you two are talking about two different things. J-Luck is talking about standing locks which are quite hard to get, while Mastergrappler is talking about "joint destructions" which just require a good grip on a limb and are applied with a quick motion like a punch because you don't need to control the opponent's body as much if you aren't going to give him a chance to tap.

my apologies if i put words in anyone's mouth.

[J-Luck]

I think you two are talking about two different things. J-Luck is talking about standing locks which are quite hard to get, while Mastergrappler is talking about "joint destructions" which just require a good grip on a limb and are applied with a quick motion like a punch because you don't need to control the opponent's body as much if you aren't going to give him a chance to tap.

my apologies if i put words in anyone's mouth.

Nope you didn't. I was talking about standing locks. But I meant finishing them also. So I'm not quite sure what you're saying the difference is.

[kuk sool won]

what he is saying is that he thinks you are talking about locks like armbars to neutralise the attacker through submission whilst he was talking about neutralising the attacker through strikes.

[Garland]

and for people saying this probably wont happen or to run it wont cause i saw it in a dream and it's gonna happen.

Did you get your ass handed to you in the dream?
I'd say you're pretty much hosed, bro...sorry.

Oh well, it's out of your hands at this point.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

Nope you didn't. I was talking about standing locks. But I meant finishing them also. So I'm not quite sure what you're saying the difference is.

i gotcha. when someone says "lock" i think "pain compliance hold" aka submission, not snapping the joint. "joint destruction" on the other hand makes me think of applying a technique in an instant, breaking bone before the person has time to react, let alone tap. to be honest i don't know if that distinction is actually in the definition of the phrases or if i picked up that connotation misguidedly.

there's one technique that kinda illustrates the difference for me. it's a joint destruction from jujitsu. you get a hold of your opponent's left wrist with your right hand and wrench it straight across your chest while shooting your left arm across their neck (or chest if they're alot taller). anyway, probably hard to picture just from that but the point is if you apply it as a lock to make them tap they can just muscle their way out.

[Garland]

there's one technique that kinda illustrates the difference for me. it's a joint destruction from jujitsu. you get a hold of your opponent's left wrist with your right hand and wrench it straight across your chest while shooting your left arm across their neck (or chest if they're alot taller). anyway, probably hard to picture just from that but the point is if you apply it as a lock to make them tap they can just muscle their way out.

There's the same thing in kali, only we smash into the extended joint with our elbow.

[SamuraiGuy]

HEY... I didn't ask for your approval. When someone significant backs me then it means something, you might as well have only agreed in your head.

With Boar gone I guess im the only one who can back you up....

lmao. I had to do it.. I couldn't resist lol...