bjj question

[JkD187]

With Boar gone I guess im the only one who can back you up....

lmao. I had to do it.. I couldn't resist lol...

Hey MOFO dont forget about me!

[JkD187]

When you say standing armbars i can only think of one thing.....SHINYA AOKI!!!!!!! Tobikan Judan bitches.

[JkD187]

Technique for those interested.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

yea see that falls under "joint destruction" in my mind. unless you're a chin-na master of the level of freakin Pai Mei you can't apply that in a way that leaves the guy time to tap but also puts him so off balance and contorted that he can't just pull out of it.

cool technique but kinda messed up to pull in a sporting competition.

[SamuraiGuy]

Hey MOFO dont forget about me!

No offense but when were you deemed significant....

I'm not sure that you were..

And I'm not sure if you know what I'm referring too

[J-Luck]

With Boar gone I guess im the only one who can back you up....

lmao. I had to do it.. I couldn't resist lol...

Actually... I agree with most of your posts and you seem to have strong crit. thinking skills with intelligence and logic to back it up so I respect most everything you have to say here.

[J-Luck]

i gotcha. when someone says "lock" i think "pain compliance hold" aka submission, not snapping the joint. "joint destruction" on the other hand makes me think of applying a technique in an instant, breaking bone before the person has time to react, let alone tap. to be honest i don't know if that distinction is actually in the definition of the phrases or if i picked up that connotation misguidedly.

there's one technique that kinda illustrates the difference for me. it's a joint destruction from jujitsu. you get a hold of your opponent's left wrist with your right hand and wrench it straight across your chest while shooting your left arm across their neck (or chest if they're alot taller). anyway, probably hard to picture just from that but the point is if you apply it as a lock to make them tap they can just muscle their way out.

I understand all that, but it's still low percentage... at the very least against a trained grappler, and I would argue against an untrained fighter.

[JkD187]

No offense but when were you deemed significant....

I'm not sure that you were..

And I'm not sure if you know what I'm referring too

Hey just because that can graciehunter deemed you to be a sig user doesnt mean shyt! people on here love me.....at least id hope so.

[JkD187]

yea see that falls under "joint destruction" in my mind. unless you're a chin-na master of the level of freakin Pai Mei you can't apply that in a way that leaves the guy time to tap but also puts him so off balance and contorted that he can't just pull out of it.

cool technique but kinda messed up to pull in a sporting competition.

Its actually a Judo move called Wakigatame.Its actually a throw but if the guy resists then the arm is broken which is why its illegal in Judo.Now see that was a semi-accedent....whats really messed up is Frank Mir:he puts submissions on for the sake of breaking things.

[medic06]

Snapping an arm while standing only works sometimes. Not what you would call a high percentage technique/techniques.

How many times have you snapped someone's arm

[MasterGrappler]

No no no... ugh stupid child! How many times must I school you? Ugh! Well, here I go again.

A. the whole dynamic behind a standing lock other than flying armbars and such are low percentage moves... the just are. Let me explain what that is for you... I'll type REAL BIG SO YOU CAN GET IT OK? LOW PERCENTAGE MOVES ARE THOSE THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO FINISH INTRINSICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION, POSITION, OR THE WAY YOU SET UP OR APPLY THE TECHNIQUE. STANDING ARMLOCKS FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. IF YOUR WHITE BELT ASS DOESNT KNOW WHY, YOU WILL FIGURE IT OUT AS YOU MOVE UP. DONT WORRY, YOULL GET THERE SOMDAY.

ALSO, LOGIC/CRITICAL THINKING CLASSES WOULD DO YOU SOME GOOD. THOUGH MAYBE YOU'RE TOO UNINTELLIGENT/ INSECURE TO FIX THE ISSUE. OH WELL, CAN'T HELP THEM ALL I GUESS.

Plenty of ways to break arms, wrists, joints, etc without doing flying armbars, you tool

[MasterGrappler]

And no, I study Bjj under Tim Burrill, he is one of the first American black belts under Carlos Machado... you might have heard of him? I also study Judo, I wrestle and box. I consider myself primarily a grappler though. Hoping to start Muay Thai soon.

well when you get your first stripe on your white belt, let us know here. I can let u lick my balls as a reward. k jr.?

[jubaji]

No offense but when were you deemed significant....

I'm not sure that you were..

He's more significant than you!