Ngo Cho Kun

[konghan]

Thanks for the advices Nothingness, konghan,

I wonder what you do just after practicing dynamic tension exercises...
is it advised to do additional exercises afterwards to avoid problems?

Usually after dynamic tension exercises I finish training and sit down 5-10"...

Dynamic exercises are usually done in the middle or climax of your training. Start with warm ups sam chien is a good warm up too, do it with minumum tensioning.

After dynamnic work out its time to cool down first don`t sit down immidiately. Any wu zu quan form done lightly with good breathing is a good way to cool down sam chien or chong hap kun is a good cool down form minus the jumping, do it lightly.

Doing additional exercises after dynamic tension work out is ( for me ) a good time to work on additional exercises becuase at that time your body that include external & internal systems are already warm up. Some additional exercises are speed power punching, kicks, combination techniques, bag work etc. It is better to do it in sets.

I`m assuming by dynamic tensioning exercises you are talking about stretching, & forms?

[krys]

I am meaning forms and a kind of hard Chi Kung.

The chi kung consists in different arm tensing motions while pulling or pushing slowly in different directions (inhaling-exhaling), holding different postures (horse stance and others).

After practicing tensioning I feel strange things happening in my body, sometimes my forearms become blood red when I stop (it doesn't last long).
Did you also observe that kind of reactions?

Oh konghan one last thing, I tried to visualize the sam chien form on your website but it seems that a virus is sent whenever I open the file.

[konghan]

I am meaning forms and a kind of hard Chi Kung.

The chi kung consists in different arm tensing motions while pulling or pushing slowly in different directions (inhaling-exhaling), holding different postures (horse stance and others).

After practicing tensioning I feel strange things happening in my body, sometimes my forearms become blood red when I stop (it doesn't last long).
Did you also observe that kind of reactions?

Oh konghan one last thing, I tried to visualize the sam chien form on your website but it seems that a virus is sent whenever I open the file.

Yes, after tensioning excercise I feel internal muscle burning sensation & my muscles feel so "ALIVE". I usually will follow up this training with bag work and in japanese term " makiwara" punching. This will help sustain the internal energy & properly transmit the power to your fist & develop that penetrating punching power. Remember always use your hip twisting , jerking & shoulder not your brute force.

It is also a good idea after your dynamic tensioning workout to do some bench press, chin ups or arm curl. This will have a good balance of developing internal & external strength.

Keep training on it & soon it will last, internal power sensation will last longer & soon it will be easier to bring out that power when you needed it.

As far as the sam chien video on the web, try checking your pc maybe you have a bug becuase it runs ok in my pc.

I`m actually planing to make a video of our wu zu quan, from sam chien to di stat, including techniques for street combat & training techniques for san shou competition. Including some weapons, but I`m still waiting for a good time to have somebody help me with making a good video.

[Nothingness]

You are welcome.

I do the dynamic tensioning before doing each form.


Just curious,

Gents, do you twist your front leg before punching?

[konghan]

You are welcome.

I do the dynamic tensioning before doing each form.


Just curious,

Gents, do you twist your front leg before punching?

Depends on which arm is punching out first the lead or the rear arm. The leg will twist with the arm that is punching out. If your left leg is the lead leg & if you are going to punch with your left arm then the front lead leg will twist by locking the knee in, the twisting is coming from the hip ( tan tian ). Same if punching with rear arm, rear leg twist in locking knee in.

In a punch, the arm is relax, the speed & momentum of the punch is executed from the legs, hip & shoulder the arm muscles tense up for power only at the last minute or few inches away like an arrow head twisting deep into the target.

Combining the punch with a front or semi round house kick to the back knee, thigh or rib area then grab the head or hip & execute a takedown or filp is a good combination in a san shou match.

[joedoe]

Hi .
I found new forum, and they looking for people to join as well as moderators, if we willing to move they will provide as with our own wuzuquan section and someone from us could be a moderator! You guys interested plz reply???

Might be. Can you post the link? It's not the old one we used to meet on is it?

[yentao]

I heard there are specific ngo cho kun strengthening exercises using dumbells .... one holds a weight and lifts it (fist clenched forward) over his shoulders, altrenatively the dumbells is thrown in the air and one has to catch it with the other hand....
Is somebody familiar with this exercise? Are there other similar?
Thanks.

In short, if he or she trains "chio so" the strength of the wrist how his or her punch likely to unable to block and how painful will it be if someones try to. Also training chiok so can strengthen blocking the reason it was actually thrown in the air like a ball. So that he or she will be able to control or catch or block strong incoming blows with ease. also if you are good with chio so and able to train with a 25lbs. dumbell you'll be able to strike someone downward with tremendous speed and power.

[yentao]

Dynamic exercises are usually done in the middle or climax of your training. Start with warm ups sam chien is a good warm up too, do it with minumum tensioning.

After dynamnic work out its time to cool down first don`t sit down immidiately. Any wu zu quan form done lightly with good breathing is a good way to cool down sam chien or chong hap kun is a good cool down form minus the jumping, do it lightly.

Doing additional exercises after dynamic tension work out is ( for me ) a good time to work on additional exercises becuase at that time your body that include external & internal systems are already warm up. Some additional exercises are speed power punching, kicks, combination techniques, bag work etc. It is better to do it in sets.

I`m assuming by dynamic tensioning exercises you are talking about stretching, & forms?

kang ngo ki is a good exercise after doing a lot of chien tensioning forms let's bash that arm up.

[Nothingness]

Konghan,

Thanks for the reply. I am just double checking. I do the same thing as you do, too.

[konghan]

Konghan,

Thanks for the reply. I am just double checking. I do the same thing as you do, too.

Have you done any sparing using what you have learned?

[Nothingness]

We have 3 different kind of it. The first thing we learn is the twe-ta or the paired set as you did in the sam chien. After the student seems to be proficient enough, we have a semi-sparring that we call go-ta. The position starts with one wrist in touch with the opponent's wrist. Anyone can attack first. The third one we call it lan-ta or free sparring.

And yes, absolutely I've done a lot of it

[konghan]

We have 3 different kind of it. The first thing we learn is the twe-ta or the paired set as you did in the sam chien. After the student seems to be proficient enough, we have a semi-sparring that we call go-ta. The position starts with one wrist in touch with the opponent's wrist. Anyone can attack first. The third one we call it lan-ta or free sparring.

And yes, absolutely I've done a lot of it

Any plans to participate in any tournaments?

[Nothingness]

I have certain opinions about joining a tournament. Being protected by rules of the tournament, one tends to hide behind the rules and result in some dependence. That will result in "damages" in the reflexes that are useful in a self-defense situation.

I believe you know very well what I mean. NCK has so many techniques that aim the parts of the body that are forbidden in a tournament.

I have certain experiences that confirm my opinions.

What's your view on joining a tournament? Please share it with us.

[Nothingness]

I have certain opinions about joining a tournament. Being protected by rules of the tournament, one tends to hide behind the rules and result in some dependence. That will result in "damages" in the reflexes that are useful in a self-defense situation.

I believe you know very well what I mean. NCK has so many techniques that aim the parts of the body that are forbidden in a tournament.

I have certain experiences that confirm my opinions.

What's your view on joining a tournament? Please share it with us.

[sherwinc]

I have certain opinions about joining a tournament. Being protected by rules of the tournament, one tends to hide behind the rules and result in some dependence. That will result in "damages" in the reflexes that are useful in a self-defense situation.

I believe you know very well what I mean. NCK has so many techniques that aim the parts of the body that are forbidden in a tournament.

I have certain experiences that confirm my opinions.

I Agree.......

95% of my KungFu Attacking Combinations are all FOUL/Not-Allowed......... or else..... Disqualified if several fouls committed.....

but sparring in the backyard..... that 95% KungFu Attacking Combinations (forbidden in the Tournament) mostly, 25% out of it are all landed on the KungFu sparring partners body even thou the remaining 75% of your attacks are being blocked/neutralized/intercepted by your KungFu opponent....