Most useless Martial Arts styles

[Sensei Saki]

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

[Tom Yum]

I am serious though. If you're tired, stressed, mad, annoyed, on drugs, you'll score lower, or perhaps with some drugs higher. Shrinks claim that their tests compensate for this, but how can they possibly take all these factors and their extent into account? Of course they magically do, which is why the results vary so much, so often.

Ok, the question is what drugs help one score higher and how can I get them?

Can I go to the easy shrink next to Hollywood upstairs medical clinic (a.k.a Lionel Hutz) and demand a score of 130 when the German PhD downtown gives me -75?

Those dishonest, imprecise Germans...

The moral of this post is: Take what you have and work with it. Don't allow other's to drag you down, be all you can be. Chances are that's more than you know and more than others want to admit.

Hell Yeah!!!!

[Tom Yum]

I am serious though. If you're tired, stressed, mad, annoyed, on drugs, you'll score lower, or perhaps with some drugs higher. Shrinks claim that their tests compensate for this, but how can they possibly take all these factors and their extent into account? Of course they magically do, which is why the results vary so much, so often.

Ok, the question is what drugs help one score higher and how can I get them?

Can I go to the easy shrink next to Hollywood upstairs medical clinic (a.k.a Lionel Hutz) and bribe my way into a score of 130 when the German PhD/MD downtown gives me -75?

Dang those dishonest, imprecise Germans!!!

The moral of this post is: Take what you have and work with it. Don't allow other's to drag you down, be all you can be. Chances are that's more than you know and more than others want to admit.

!!!!whooop!!!!

[Zell]

I thougth this was about the least effective ma?...

Is tae kwon do realy that bad, I mean, it's a military martial art, isn't it?

[eXcessiveForce]

No I am not a psychologist. I simply have a degree in psychology, pretty quick i'll have my MBA that does not make me donald trump. I generally use my psych degree in the sales and negotiation area.

I worked with people with MRDD. I did not administer IQ tests, I dealt with the results that were contained in my clients case files. I was not present when the tests were given. However I have read about the procedures used to test them.


You suggested Websters, I simply cut and pasted from dictionary.com. I already gave you a very simple definition which was remarkably close to one of the definitions listed at dictionary.com.


I have already told you about IQ tests. I have told you that you will need to research further information for yourself.

Mice require small mazes. People would require larger mazes. It is impractical to build that large of a maze. Besides people have a higher cognitive ability than mice so require more sophisticated tests.

[Garland]

Don't you find the idea of a human running through a maze degrading?

Thank you for berating my daily life. you bastard.

[eXcessiveForce]

Psychologists have Master's degrees or Doctorates in Psychology. They have also gone through licensing. I believe they must also do clinical work but I could be wrong on that.

Psychology is a huge field. you are asking about a very small area. I primarily study influence, rapport, motivation and teaching techniques.

I do not work with abnormal psych except for the brief time I worked with clients who were MRDD.

For instance I have course work in counseling but I am not a counselor. I don't do counseling for drug addiction, or marriage counseling. Could I go on and do that? sure I could but I don't have the desire to do that.

I don't mind telling you what I know or have dealt with but in reality IQ tests just aren't that important. They are totally useless for my purposes and I don't really deal with them.

I've studied ethics and philosphy almost as much as psychology. In fact, I have a second degree that has nothing to do with psychology.

[Garland]

second degree in hedou-shirinku-do???

[Tom Yum]

Are mental health professionals trained to be evasive?

I'm sorry, but I'm not trained in shrink alphabet soup.

So mental health professionals are trained to be evasive?

That is exactly what I was getting at.

But you have dealt with them or their results in the past?

With those credentials, don't you find the idea of a human running through a maze morally corrupt?

The key here is a socratic-style of leading an argument nowhere...

...but how do we know where the argument is going ?

[eXcessiveForce]

why? should they be trained to be evasive?

MRDD=mental retardation developmental disabilities.

as for dealing with IQ tests, I have dealt with the results and I have taken many of them throughout my life as I previously stated.

Human mazes, I would find it amusing and good exercise. I often feel mice are smarter than many people I have had coverstions with. squeek. I mean don't you agree.

What is your experience with psychologists? It seems that from your tone you have dealt with them in your life. Are they the ones who gave you your IQ tests?

[eXcessiveForce]

I have no idea if they are trained to be evasive. I would imagine that it would be specific to the individual.



what are we supposed to be agreeing on when it comes to IQ tests?


I don't know whether you seeing psychologists is related to your IQ tests. But I think it is perhaps a good idea for you to see psychologists.

[eXcessiveForce]

I was not trained to be evasive while studying psychology, nor do I know anyone who was. Philosophy is where I learned to be evasive.


Yup IQ tests aren't a very important factor in psychology.


You seem to have lots of issues with psychology. You have not provided enough info to determine what it is those issues are.


as for what "shrinks" are like, I have not found that to be the case. There is also a difference between psychologists and psychiatrists.

I change what i'm doing a lot. Not much money in mental health but it can be interesting.

[Tom Yum]

Do you think that shrinks look forwards and perhaps even fantasize about having a mentally ill patient?

That's a scary thought. Probably not the case with most, but you never know.

Ok, so you hate those involved in the mental health industries. Point taken, lets get back to the thread.

[eXcessiveForce]

while you are humors with your rant. I wonder if you have ever spent any time with someone with acute mental illness. Such as schizo-affect disorder (the worst of the mental illnesses), or Bi-polar disorder.

There are people out there who are a danger to themselves and others. They have no concept of right and wrong or of reality vs. imagination. Some have no control over impulses.

Try reading about BTK. That is a psychological field day. here you have a guy that gets along in normal society and yet kills people for fun.

Psychologists deal with counselling. They try to get people to solve their problems. They don't medicate, they can't write prescriptions. generally they try to get people to use logic to instill a rational thinking process.

Psychiatrists, use drugs to treat people who are incapable of dealing with issues. You can't treat a schizoaffect person with counselling it takes meds and lots of them usually. True ADD cases, i've had a few in my martial arts classes are truely difficult cases. Generally they a fairly rare though.

Most parents try to get their kids labled add or adhd simply because they cannot handle them. They have not properly disciplined them and therefore are unable to control them. Really a good beating for most of the kids on drugs for ADD would do wonders.

Also it is sad but true in most cases if your family is screwed up when you are little you are going to be screwed up. Then when you have a family they will be screwed up.

[BoarSpear]

Most parents try to get their kids labled add or adhd simply because they cannot handle them. They have not properly disciplined them and therefore are unable to control them. Really a good beating for most of the kids on drugs for ADD would do wonders.

Amen to that